Found Deceased FL - Madeline Soto, 13, Missing Child Alert, 13500 blk Town Loop Blvd, Orlando, 26 Feb 2024 *arrest* #11

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sunspun said:
It looks to me like JS wrote those notes. Was she trying to get on disability perhaps? That one paragraph about her health issues begins with a number 5, possibly as if she was writing out her answer to a question on a form. (Question #5) Or just numbering the points she wanted to remember to make to her doctor at her appointment, as someone already suggested. Maybe to get a doctor's note for work purposes or to try to get a certain prescription. Can anyone make out what was scribbled out at the end?

Were there any more notes photographed besides these?
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“That resemble my perpetrator”
 

I'm listening to the police interviews with various people as found on Grey Hughes at the link. Specifically listening to JS's mother's interview. She remembers the last time she spoke with MS because MS slept over on the Friday at her house. Saturday gran was at work, and told the officer husband was going to take MS somewhere, but MS started to cry and said no, she didn't want to go so she did not go at all. So her ex-husband picked her up and they spent the day together.

So where was MS supposed to go that she didn't want to go and set her off crying????
 
photographer4 said:

I'm listening to the police interviews with various people as found on Grey Hughes at the link. Specifically listening to JS's mother's interview. She remembers the last time she spoke with MS because MS slept over on the Friday at her house. Saturday gran was at work, and told the officer husband was going to take MS somewhere, but MS started to cry and said no, she didn't want to go so she did not go at all. So her ex-husband picked her up and they spent the day together.

So where was MS supposed to go that she didn't want to go and set her off crying????
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I’m confused. Wouldn’t the last time she saw her be the Sunday evening at her house for the party?
 
photographer4 said:
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I'm listening to the police interviews with various people as found on Grey Hughes at the link. Specifically listening to JS's mother's interview. She remembers the last time she spoke with MS because MS slept over on the Friday at her house. Saturday gran was at work, and told the officer husband was going to take MS somewhere, but MS started to cry and said no, she didn't want to go so she did not go at all. So her ex-husband picked her up and they spent the day together.

So where was MS supposed to go that she didn't want to go and set her off crying????
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Didn’t some say / post that MS did not want to go home and her grandpa (the one who owns the townhouse) did something with her on Saturday to placate her — apparently he adored her. Sorry don’t have source.
 
Mack the Knife said:
Well I just got this back from Orange County and it's still downloading, but it's like 7GB of...something. I'm not a YouTuber and I do have a day job, so I'm not possibly going to be able to look through and process all of this for sharing. I have no idea what's in this, but at least a lot of photos and videos and audio. I'm sure most of the important stuff has already been put out there by the YouTubers.

I'll try and do the thing I have been doing where I share what I see as key points or the most notable, but if anyone can think of anything specific they want me to share, please let me know.
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I'll also report this for mods so I can get their take on what is approved for me to share. I think I've gotten some leeway re:ToS when it comes to uploading documents, since they're reasonably long files with appropriate headers that no one is likely to fake. But it's a little different when it's me, random person on the internet, uploading a photo and saying "this is from SS's car just trust me".
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Took several attempts and several hours, but I've finally got it all downloaded. Turns out it is 32 gigs!

A brief browse shows that a lot of this is audio files, which I'd guess have largely been shared by the YouTubers. There is also a lot of body cam footage, I'm not sure how much of that is shared but I would guess the most pertinent things have been. Many many photos as well, including nude photos of SS that I was completely shocked were not redacted. Absolutely jarring. Anyway I'm obviously not going to be posting those, but those are the only photos that seemed of particular import, unless there might be something that a YouTuber has posted that someone wants a higher quality version of.

On that note, I've not heard back yet from mods yet on for guidance on sharing those types of records, so I'll start looking through the incident reports and other paperwork that I think is probably still okay to share, since it's all on official letterhead.
 
Mack the Knife said:
Took several attempts and several hours, but I've finally got it all downloaded. Turns out it is 32 gigs!

A brief browse shows that a lot of this is audio files, which I'd guess have largely been shared by the YouTubers. There is also a lot of body cam footage, I'm not sure how much of that is shared but I would guess the most pertinent things have been. Many many photos as well, including nude photos of SS that I was completely shocked were not redacted. Absolutely jarring. Anyway I'm obviously not going to be posting those, but those are the only photos that seemed of particular import, unless there might be something that a YouTuber has posted that someone wants a higher quality version of.

On that note, I've not heard back yet from mods yet on for guidance on sharing those types of records, so I'll start looking through the incident reports and other paperwork that I think is probably still okay to share, since it's all on official letterhead.
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How about photos with a fig leaf? ;)
 
Guys, I apologize for not having exact timestamps, but I noticed something interesting from the interviews posted on GHI with one of Maddie's friends and her gym teacher.

Both of them referred to her having an inhaler, but neither JS nor SS ever mentioned her needing an inhaler.

If you were the parent of a missing child who at least sometimes needed an inhaler, why wouldn't you mention that to either LE or the press?
 
One last thing tonight that I gleaned from the audio posted on GHI. Again, I don't have time stamps and I really apologize for that. I know it's annoying.

I find it very strange that JS continually refers to Maddie as "not making it"

She says Maddie's friend told her that MS didn't make it to first period. No child talks like that. They would say she wasn't in first period.

JS went back to Y's office to see if she'd shown up there and according to her, they said she didn't make it.

There are many other examples, but this consistent wording has leapt out to me. Where are regular phrases like: she didn't show up, she never arrived, she was absent--but almost always "SHE DIDN'T MAKE IT?"

I don't know if JS was complicit in Maddie's murder, but there's no doubt in my mind any longer, after having listened to these audios, that she is 100% complicit in trying to help SS cover things up.

MOO of course.
 
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LetsSolvIt said:
Didn’t some say / post that MS did not want to go home and her grandpa (the one who owns the townhouse) did something with her on Saturday to placate her — apparently he adored her. Sorry don’t have source.
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I don't either, but that's what I remember too.

Once again, my heart breaks for Maddie.
 
IzzyBlanche said:
I don't either, but that's what I remember too.

Once again, my heart breaks for Maddie.
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Grandpa Soto... he mentioned taking her to Burger King at some point.. he said... I can't eat Whoppers... I ordered a Double Whopper.. and he broke down. Sounds like it was a happy memory with his little girl. Sometimes it's those little moments that mean so much after someone is gone.

Does that sound right? The grandparents lost so much.
 
IzzyBlanche said:
One last thing tonight that I gleaned from the audio posted on GHI. Again, I don't have time stamps and I really apologize for that. I know it's annoying.

I find it very strange that JS continually refers to Maddie as "not making it"

She says Maddie's friend told her that MS didn't make it to first period. No child talks like that. They would say she wasn't in first period.

JS went back to Y's office to see if she'd shown up there and according to her, they said she didn't make it.

There are many other examples, but this consistent wording has leapt out to me. Where are regular phrases like: she didn't show up, she never arrived, she was absent--but almost always "SHE DIDN'T MAKE IT?"

I don't know if JS was complicit in Maddie's murder, but there's no doubt in my mind any longer, after having listened to these audios, that she is 100% complicit in trying to help SS cover things up.

MOO of course.
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great post. "she didnt make it" *gawd*

What I note from the interviews is one of the teachers.....Italo Brett....he pulled up the app for "Talking Points' which is an app for parents to use with teachers, he says quicker than EMAIL.....at 5:36pm JS contacted him via the app and he reads it to the investigator "Hi, Madeline didnt make it to school today, she hasnt made it home today'. he replied back at 5:53pm and advised JS she wasnt in any classes and then he informed the necessary school personnel. and then he contacted JS again around 6:20pm asking if she was found and was told they were waiting on the police.

the time JS contacted him......seems like this was after she contacted Madeline's friend and this was simply confirming the friend's info with the teacher by virtue of her telling HIM she didnt make it to school. he then checked.

again, why didnt she pull out of the car line and go inside the school to check for Madeline at pickup? <---Im still hung up on that piece, Ill never get past that.

Counselor: as of her last session with Madeline on Feb 6, Madeline said things at home were so much better. (geez wonder why). prior to that, she stated Madeline discussed primarily anxiety and panic attacks and 'being overstimulated' but couldnt fully articulate specifically why. prior to that, after one of her sessions with Madeline and seeing the drawings Madeline had drawn at her suggestion to express herself, she was concerned because she was out of school for a few days after that, and she contacted JS. she was told by JS Madeline was sick and she was taking her to the doctor....when the drawings were discussed, JS said Madeline was seeing a therapist once a week, therefore the counselor thru that conversation with JS, felt Madeline's emotional wellbeing was being addressed.

it should be noted the podcasters do have those drawings thru the FOIA but will only describe them due to her being a minor.....there were sexual in nature drawings among them and one saying summertime sadness (IIRC), another one saying I got my eye on you. very disturbing.

seems like JS waved away the counselor so she wouldnt escalate her concern and ultimately accepted JS's bs.

overall, Madeline was a child struggling emotionally, physically and academically but she did not confide in anyone what was really happening in her home while SS was living there, other than an angry screaming mother and SS who she admitted at some point she didnt like him, called him weird, and he made her feel uncomfortable. it appears she had alot of school nurse visits as well. wondering if JS was contacted.

also, Im very curious if Madeline was really seeing a therapist once a week. and was Madeline diagnosed with asthma. as many pointed out, why didnt JS ever mention Madeline's inhaler? and most importantly, if we will ever know, her toxicology.....
 
IzzyBlanche said:
Guys, I apologize for not having exact timestamps, but I noticed something interesting from the interviews posted on GHI with one of Maddie's friends and her gym teacher.

Both of them referred to her having an inhaler, but neither JS nor SS ever mentioned her needing an inhaler.

If you were the parent of a missing child who at least sometimes needed an inhaler, why wouldn't you mention that to either LE or the press?
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yes, and it was depicted in the contents of her backpack. and why wasnt it mentioned? was she or was she not formally diagnosed?
 
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