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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #5 *Arrests*

    Somehow TA believed she was still part of the 1800s lawless Panhandle. It seems likely she wasn't the only one. That's a tight knit area. Would be interesting to hear from uninvolved neighbors, assuming there are such.
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #5 *Arrests*

    Waiting for a trial - if there will be one. Most cases today are plea bargained. If this happens, we will never know exactly how this happened and the whys.
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    Such non-intelligence at work to plan like this and think you could get away with it.
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    The only one that looks maybe remorseful is Cora. But, then, maybe it's just a confused look, not knowing what to expect.
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    The sheriff mentions both drones and security on roofs. About 1:10 in video above: Texas County Sheriff Speaks...
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    It's interesting he mentions integration and community support for police more than once. Leaves a bit of questioning. His defense of security (drones, police on roofs) says he knew (maybe heard) about possible problems, and, as part of the community, IMO he knows what's being said.
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    Drone overhead for safety? Guesses are residents of the area aren't happy with the arrests, and the FBI knows this.
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    Don't mean to be political, but TA was the GOP Chairman of the area, giving her some power. Area also is pretty "we all stick together." FBI took precautions so this didn't turn out as an A Bundy deal. Seems murder was a bit far to protect for the area's agenda, however. Wish area residents...
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    Covenant marriage is not recognized in Oklahoma. Only 3 states: Arizona, Arkansas, Louisiana. So, I guess they are not legally married.
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    Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #4 *Arrests*

    Lately, I go to sleep at night thinking of the tragedy to V and J but mostly of those impacted by the horrible murders. Six children stained forever. A life partner left with memories and tears. A father left to solo raise four children. A grandfather left to raise grandchildren. A teenager who...
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    MN MN - Bryce Borca, 23, college student, seen at 2AM, search focused near Minnesota River, Eagan, 30 Oct 2022

    And it seems that's what they are still deciding. Why hasn't a deep search been expanded to include Gun Club, to include the deep drainage ditches?
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    MN MN - Bryce Borca, 23, college student, seen at 2AM, search focused near Minnesota River, Eagan, 30 Oct 2022

    You mention transients. Yes. Definitely. I have previously mentioned the idea of looking at Gun Club Lake. Not that far from where he disappeared. Transient camps there.
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    OK OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #3 *Arrests*

    1978 Jim Jones conned 900 people into taking lives of children, loved ones, and their own lives. Not comprehendable how he did it, just as how T did it.
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    OK OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #3 *Arrests*

    OK statute 21-701.9: A person who is convicted of or pleads guilty or nolo contendere to murder in the first degree shall be punished by death, by imprisonment for life without parole or by imprisonment for life.
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    OK OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #3 *Arrests*

    Wikipedia says the U.S. has had 68 female serial killers. 69?
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    OK OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #3 *Arrests*

    Unknowns, of course. Coincidence that he was in rehab when this occurred? Wonder how long before the actual murders T planned this. I'm sure he's been questioned.
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    OK OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #3 *Arrests*

    A lot of killers in the news have no previous records, no known mental health issues. The Twomblys don't seem like hardened criminals with such. Unless it's $$ no idea why they would even consider this plot. Seems obvious none of the four will be walking the backroads of OK except possibly as...

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