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And realistically, if the 29 year old woman is presenting as an ‘underdeveloped 15 year old’ (quote from the dr who examined her) she would probably be so malnourished and emaciated that her cycles had stopped, thus very unlikely to have fallen pregnant. The poor thing :(

I think it’s definitely long term. The people who bought the house in 2000 were the ones who saw the scratches behind the doors :(

I’m pretty aware of Australian law, but this is an American case. I have no problem with their identities being protected, but my point was that it’s inconsistent in American media coverage. Edited to add: actually it’s a bit inconsistent here too. See the case of Chloe...

Incredibly stunted - I saw a video linked earlier in this thread where a doctor said the 29 year old is physically similar to an underdeveloped 15 year old. The video also shows LE confirming that three of the Turpin children were chained to furniture. Edited to add the link to the video...

I should have said ‘gauged’ instead of ‘diagnosed’. I was clear in acknowledging you were speculating though.

That is so weird. I did wonder why their names haven’t been mentioned in the media - clearly it’s to protect their privacy, but on the other hand they released the name of Michelle Berry’s daughter (Ariel Castro case).

Interesting that she has two officers accompanying/assisting her, and he only one one.

RSBM Something else of note, IMO, is their elocution. I couldn’t understand a few of the brief things they said when Elvis pointed the microphone at them, and the younger girls’ pronunciation of ‘hound dog’ was unclear. I couldn’t understand one of the middle...

Mental and intellectual disabilities can’t be diagnosed on looks, and especially not based on photos. You are speculating about an abused victim here.

That’s really exciting news!

The girls are front page news in Australia tonight. http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/parents-of-murdered-teen-girls-abigail-williams-and-liberty-german-speak-out-about-ongoing-investigation/news-story/9c407a49a6cd2d16e20f78ffa5bd43c1

I’m having trouble accessing Wensleuths today - anyone else? The page loads but I can only see one post. Edit - it seems complaining helped haha. The posts were threaded, even though my user CP listed linear. I just swapped them around a couple of times and it is back to normal now.

Finally! Wonderful news. It was only a matter of time before he was arrested.

I agree. I think there was some kind of indicator that it was suicide.

I could be completely wrong but I'm guessing it is because not all of her body was found. I'm thinking the continuing investigation involves searching for the remaining parts. RIP Elisa. Prayers for your family and friends.

I hear you Doc and I totally agree.

Just in case anyone wanted an update on this great story - little Dylan joked that was ready to go back to school today! Mum will be in hospital for a while, she has really suffered. These two legends used what they knew from watching Bear Grylls to stay alive...

That's such great news, thanks for posting it drsleuth! We need to hear those good stories. Something I hadn't heard previously (or I missed it): neighbours said Elisa's black lab is prone to taking itself for a wander...

Lovely friends, this is a great place. We all have a horrible feeling in our belly with the news that a body has been found. We all know there's a good chance it's Elisa. Let's not take that disappointment and anger out on others here. Love to you all, but especially to the family of whoever...

I just checked and mine doesn't, but I'm in NSW and Elisa is in Vic so it may be different (they're issued by state, not nationally).