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Right, because previous history of GZ has indication of gun violence.:banghead:

I disagree, there is pretty strong evidence who was on top of whom. We also have witness testimony (the only witness who saw any part of the fight) collaborate GZ's version. We have injuries to GZ. Also to clarify, TM started running while GZ was in his car, still on the phone with NEN.

Can the mods give us a poll thread?

Considering GZ never had a history of gun violence prior to this event, I will disagree with you.

I think they will go to tomorrow and deliver it late tomorrow afternoon.

I agree. I hope people can be calm when the verdict comes, no matter what it is.

That's your opinion, not a fact.

I don't see that as a good thing. Not because of GZ, but because of the mob mentality of folks who do not get what they want and feel they need to threaten someone. This country's justice system works the way it does, the jury's decision should be final, people should move on without threatening.

O/T What movie?

Mistrial I assume.

But there is evidence that GZ sustained injuries as well as evidence that GZ was on his back and TM was on him. This isn't assumption, there is evidence that supports that theory.

Talking about burden now. GZ is not required to prove anything.

Of course the prosecution didn't bring it up, it's irrelevant to this case.

And neither you or anyone else know what was said on that phone call. All you have is a witness who has credibility issues about lying as well as someone who never once thought TM was in any sort of serious trouble since she never bothered to follow up to find out what exactly happened to TM.

And that has been proven as a lie how?

Are you denying he told her he was behind his dad's house, even when I provided you the link?

What did he lie about as it pertains to this trial that has been proven as a lie?

Also ignores all the other evidence. Witness testimony, expert testimony, etc.

Let's use Mr. Guy's own argument - common sense. Absent of knowing anything else, if evidences points to someone on top of another, with a witness seeing the arms going in a down motion and the person on the bottom sustaining injuries, common sense say that's it's likely that the person on top...

We'll just agree to disagree, especially because I don't believe everything about that phone call is factual.