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    Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert #2

    I had typed out a long reply to this, but the website kicked me out. Brewer’s deposition is on the court docs page. Neither he nor Pak mention the 911 call to anyone despite long conversations about the events of that night with the police, Alex, Hackett, Colletti. Discussions about her phone if...
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    Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert #2

    We only have MPs word for this trip. JB plead the 5th. According to MP, they only left for 15 minutes, he didn’t say they were going to CVS, just that they went out to an unknown place. The closest CVS is 25 minutes away, so a 50 minute round trip. It doesn’t seem to have been independently...
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    Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert #2

    Also, Brewer claims Shannan’s jacket was lying on his driveway for ages and he told police but nobody did anything and it disappeared. If that’s the case, surely that would have been one of the first things to tell Alex? So JB is driving all over Sussex County to help AD report SG as missing...
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    Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert #2

    Thanks for that. I never realised quite how far she’d run or how far her belongings were from her body but Hackett’s house was so close to those items. Or how close to the Parkway she got. Looking at that map, things occur to me that belie the accidental death theory. If the marshy, boggy...
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    Post Your LISK Profile #2

    One thing I did forget. The last two after Shannan were taken from Long Island, places quite nearby. Again, that change in behaviour also makes me think he’s a local from Oak Beach who knew there was a fuss being raised about Shannan. He may not have felt safe with elaborate plots and ruses to...
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    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    Bose, it’s interesting that she placed a call to CVS pharmacy shortly before it kicked off. Plus Shannan had done some nursing training so may well have had a good knowledge of non-recreational drugs. I’m a student nurse. We have drugs for advanced cancer patients which aren’t general...
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    POI: Joseph Brewer #2

    I have wondered before if Brewer was a bit of a patsy in this. That a man who liked killing people noticed that his neighbour often had sex workers in his house and picked them off as they left. With of without Pak’s connivance. Pak has a history of trafficking and phoned Hackett out of the blue...
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    Post Your LISK Profile #2

    I agree he probably hires cars, but I don’t think they’re flashy. Think about it, he’s going to want to be as inconspicuous as possible and not get noticed picking the women up. I also don’t think a client appearing wealthy would have made these very streetwise girls feel safe. Sometimes the...
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    Post Your LISK Profile #2

    Really interesting thread. FWIW, I think: He’s white. Purely because it’s unusual for serial killers to kill outside their own race. He has wealth. I think it’s all but confirmed the GB4 were killed and stored elsewhere for some time. So it’s likely he has enough money to maintain 2 premises...
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    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    Bose in my misspent youth I took ketamine. It’s a sedative and you wouldn’t end up running and screaming on it. Quite the opposite, as you say.
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    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    It’s not just he said/she said though, is it? A hypothetical jury is allowed to take into account the relative reliability of witnesses. When one witness has been proven with evidence to be a serial liar and the other person’s claims have been repeatedly proven true by evidence, it ceases to be...
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    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call #2

    I think it’s a matter of reliability. First Hackett said he’d never called Mari and he and his wife had checked their phone bills and there were no calls to her, then he said she may have called him and returned her call, then he said he called her but only on the 8th. Finally the phone records...
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    Discussions about the Court Docs in the case of Estate of Gilbert vs Hackett

    Seems pretty damning for Hackett. One thing Ray didn’t bring up was Hackett’s initial keenness to tell people he had medicated Shannan with a sedative. There was a lot of activity going on, police visiting and flying over the site, families causing ructions. If Hackett was involved (and I...
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    Shannan Gilbert's 23 Minute 911 Call

    Goodfellas, where did you source Brewers statement if you don’t mind me asking.
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    TX - Cash Gernon, 4, found dead in street w/multiple wounds, Dallas, 15 May 2021 *ARREST*

    Jonbenet Ramsay’s brother didn’t go into CPS care, off the top of my head. Although having seen the state of that house, I think that alone would be reason to remove them.
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    TX - Cash Gernon, 4, found dead in street w/multiple wounds, Dallas, 15 May 2021 *ARREST*

    I had a quick look. It seems like at 16 some teens can live alone and they can be emancipated from their parents. Also it’s a Daily Mail article and they are notorious for mistakes. Earlier this week they reported Fred West had been updated about a search taking place in his home. Fred West...
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    TX - Cash Gernon, 4, found dead in street w/multiple wounds, Dallas, 15 May 2021 *ARREST*

    I see exactly that. There is a lot of volume of hair underneath the white hoody. And the skin of the kidnapper looks close to the colour of the twins skin. He also moves very, very differently in the two videos. In the first video twin 2 (I’ll call him T2 henceforth, don’t think we can use his...
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    Victim: Maureen Brainard-Barnes, 25, missing July 2007, found Gilgo Beach Dec 2010 *POI Rex Heuermann*

    Just noticed on the Melissa Barthelemy thread that one of the calls to her sister came from Penn Station, so that would fit with it being opportunistic. I suspect he worked around there. I’d guess he lives in LI and offered to take her home with him and she could get the ferry back to...
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    Possible Victim: Shannan Gilbert #2

    Fear and loathing in Las Vegas has lots of people losing it on drugs. Also a girl tripping on LSD being raped. So that could be on to something...

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