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  1. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    RFG never investigated anything on his own. He did not have the resources to do it. That is the problem with the entire Sandusky theory.
  2. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    Not a reason to walk away of kill yourself either.
  3. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    Like I said, I was not assuming it was Sandusky. If you recall, defensive coordinator Booker Brooks talked about bringing his granddaughter into public showers with him.
  4. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    A rumor is not chargeable. Remember again that the Centre County DA's Office did not have any investigator, and did not investigate.
  5. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    Is this from the investigator's notes?
  6. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    I would not assume it was about Jerry. However, it was still 6 1/2 years prior to RFG's disappearance.
  7. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    Then why was that not revealed? Further, why wait 6 1/2 years.
  8. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Kortne Ciera Stouffer, 21, Palmyra, 29 July 2012 #7

    Very good time line. Excellent time line.
  9. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    It would have been LE that was doing the discovery. RFG was not an investigating DA. The only way that this would been a motive for disappearing is if he was paid off. After all this time, there is zero evidence he was ever bribed. Nobody has ever asked, "Where did Ray Gricar get all...
  10. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    I will agree that it is evidence, but nobody said it was proof. It is fairly solid evidence that RFG was in the parking lot.
  11. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    The dog handler said that the way circled at the street was indicative of RFG getting into a car.
  12. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    Snipped for emphasis. Between 1/2001 and c. 12/2003, RFG divorced a wife, asked a waitress to marry, and moved in with his girlfriend; these are just the ones we know about. "Workaholic" would not be how I'd describe RFG.
  13. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    My understanding is that it was office computer. The search was done earlier in the week, when RFG was in the office. The computer was password protected. I'm fairly sure he did the search for the route. I suspect that he was checking the time it would take someone else to get to, or from...
  14. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    That is the opposite of what I said. The computer searches were made prior to 4/15 but were not discovered until after the Mini was discovered.
  15. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    As I said, the search was not discovered until after the Mini. RFG was not in the office on 4/15, so the search had to occur before that. His girlfriend knew the direction he was going, but not the destination. Since RFG used his cell phone, LE was able locate the direction he was going.
  16. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    One think I asked Buehner was about RFG's retirement. Buehner had tried to persuade RFG to do disability cases, which are not labor intensive; RFG said no. RFG did not want to practice law. Had he wished to, I'm sure he could have gotten a job teaching. Penn State was 11 miles from his house...
  17. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    I am now at the same age as RFG when he disappeared, or a few weeks older. I thought that might give me some insight. I was going to say it hasn't, but it has. 1. You may look toward the end of life. Not necessarily suicide, but feeling that it is a time to move on. 2. Your past...
  18. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    Here is moderately good podcast from earlier this year: The Trail Went Cold – Episode 268 – Ray Gricar – The Trail Went Cold
  19. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    That is interesting, especially since there was no claims of "repressed memory."
  20. J. J. in Phila

    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, former district attorney, Bellefonte, 15 Apr 2005 - #17

    Are you sure that is the same Smith? A synopsis says "The Sandusky case was far from the first example of illegal behavior related to the football program or the university's attempts to suppress news of it." That does not sound like wanting a retrial. Spanier's trial did put Curley and...

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