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Well, I hate to call the killer smart, but......It is pretty clever. I just it didnt give others the idea.

Very interesting story! Cant wait to hear how this turns out!

I dont remember hearing she was found. Was she?

Had not read your post yet Jersey girl, I agree with you, this older son really deserves a big hug and lots of respect for how he has handles this with the grace of an adult.

Someone needs to give the Tobias's teenage son a big hug! What a grownup role he has suddenly had to take on. They should be very proud of him. He reminds me of my 16 yr. old, who, himself has had to really grow up this year and play the father role alot. Makes me tear up thinking of her...

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know just how much it costs to just collect the DNA and store it? You hear of LE having to exhume bodies, you would think it would be cheaper to just collect and store.

Interesting! Cant wait to hear more.

It was hard to walk the fine line of scolding him for taking without asking, and for being generous enough for "loaning"

I see where you got confused, the article I found said the Tobias family had never met Hobbs before, not the mothers. I came across this link that I must have missed before. Some interesting info. in it from some of his family members trying to make him sound like a hero for saving a niece...

I am not disagreeing with you at all! I am just saying that a 9 year old might not really grasp the value of certain denomination of bills. I think it is totally possible that he might have taken that money. Of course I dont blame the children. I am just as sickened of this as you are. I...

I think the article read that this was the first time they had met SINCE the murder. I thought I had also read that the girls regularly spent the night at each other's house. I think the mothers knew each other. I will go back and find where I read that.

My son is 9. This coincidentally happened in my home not too long ago. My son knows where my husband and I keep our stash of cash. He helped himself to $20. One day when I went to get some cash and there was none left, he happily offered to "loan" me some. lol... I knew he did not have that...

Wow! I am am shocked. I am surprised by this from you. And I agree with you 100%! :clap:

Thanks lili :)

Is this anywhere near where Mr. Gricar went missing?

All news reports I am seeing are NOT naming names yet, but most are speculating about the Hobbs father. Dont look good for him. What in the world could possible be the motive.

Well, yesterday, they were in the Tobias house, dusting their car for prints, taking somekind of swabs, so I guess we should not read too much in to what is going on at the hobbs house. It will be a interesting news conference. Could be either family so far.

A Dad might know about the area if he has older kids who go to that area to dirt bike and stuff. I know about the "secret spots" my kids dirt bike and skateboard at. I am kids leaning with you on the young people thing, sounds like it was a hangout for no good, drinking.... But there is not a...

Cant even imagine, sound like a job for us! lol. I often think that every child at birth have a DNA sample taken and put on file in a central computer bank or something. Everyone for that matter should have a sample on file. I know some people will say that is intrusive, and it is, but when...

Hopefully some family will now know what happened to thier loved one. I was so astounded when I started looking online at all kinds of different states local newspapers, there was skeletal remains being found all over the place! All those missing people are out there just waiting to be found...