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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Thank goodness he is off the street!!! When do we find out what happens after he is in court?
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    do we know yet what holts occupation was?
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    with WH being sexually violated in some way by him that says more than any anything to me I think he probably made some sort of advance towards her in the past and she rebuffed it he held it in until it came to a boiling point I dont want to speculate on anything but I do think he thought about...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    :furious: MOO Holt prob did not grow up a JW knew WH from before somehow.... WH seemed very strong in her faith and wouldnt marry or date someone who wasnt a JW so he probably decided he wanted to pursue her so he decided to join the faith as well and when WH didnt feel the same way he felt...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Thanks I couldnt remember exactly... :blushing: Needless to say I dont think he attended regularly and if he is baptised and irregular then there is a very good chance that WH didnt talk to or see him besides just passing. This makes me think more and more that he had been watching her and...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    brotherly and sisterly love i can see them being willing to help someone else out and still not want to hang out around the person but be nice and honestly even though i dont attend meetings ne more i would trust someone who was a JW before i trusted some of my own family lol and i have an...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I hope things get cleared up as time goes on. I think he had to be watching her and found an opportunity I see WH as being sweet and I think he lured her in some way then once he was in the car confronted her... I wonder how he got in the drivers seat??
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    JMO but crime happens in all religions but its more rare for it to happen within the JW community sadly people are crazy all over no matter what faith and religion I dont think ne one is distancing themselves from the situation but I think more so what they meant is that he doesnt attend...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    it was probably a convention which is where lots of congregations for the region attend a weekend umm like large meeting I dont know the proper term for it LOL basically you have kingdom halls all over so you would have a weekend event in the summer that usually was two or three days and...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I dont know them of course I think it just varies on how strong your faith is and also whether you got your degrees prior to becoming a witness or after again for my family it was discouraged but so was participating in afterschool sports proms dances things like that. Just varies on family.
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I think he planned this though... JMO
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I really hope they can answer why this happened!! SO many people hurting right now... I may not attend meetings anymore but my whole heart goes out to all the JWs right now because even though this happened in Oregon I know people in the whole organization all over the country are effected by...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    it varies but most of the women i knew did not attend college and alot got married in their early 20's but that was common for everyone in my small town lol lots of girls engaged in high school!
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Totally agree with this above! its very close knit if someone has a cold you know! Also keep in mind that door to door witnessing is organized as well so yes maps and knowing the area very well doesnt surprise me at all.
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I think it varies with the way you were raised in my congregation none of us went to college right after high school although the vast majority attended the area vocational school also I knew of several who were home schooled as well so it just depended. Like the member above said you were...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    The way I was raised yes that is correct we didnt pursue any secular education after highschool I know of more who have gone now though so maybe thats not as strict?
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I was so worried about this!!! If someone had a gun to me I dont know what I would do I feel so bad for her :( just so sick right now I cant imagine what she had to go through with this crazy person!!
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    ITA As long as its respectful victim friendly and within WS guidelines I think its okay...
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    I think just to cut back on transportation costs?
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    GUILTY OR - Whitney Heichel, 21, Gresham, 16 Oct 2012 #3

    Just an FYI the halls are VERY small... usually no more than 100 or so people depending on which service you attend... I grew up a JW and stopped attending at about 17 with ours there was a morning group and an afternoon group I didnt know some of the people who attended the morning group...

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