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    Netflix - Elisa Lam

    I meant to say the singer had "nothing" to do with it, but can't see a way to edit!
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    Netflix - Elisa Lam

    I had not heard of this case till the Netflix doc either, but now it has me fascinated. I have a couple of questions/points. Ok, say she had a psychotic break. How in the world could she have figured out how to get onto the roof and into a water tank? It seemed rather complicated to get up to...
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    Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #16 *ARREST*

    With respect, to me, it doesn't. Because I simply don't know. Does anyone actually know? If you are just sitting there not using your phone for 15 minutes, will location services/receiving data show up somewhere? Not being argumentative....I just don't know enough about the technology for that...
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    Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #16 *ARREST*

    I have still not seen definitively that the cell phone was actually "turned off". The last article I read, long since lost about 15 threads back, read that (and sorry, like I say that was a few threads ago) that LE stated that "around 3 a.m." is when "all communication from Kenzie's phone...
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    Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #16 *ARREST*

    I have been saying this from the beginning. It just doesn't make sense to me that he got her there (via lyft) 100% voluntarily, it seems. If so, what would be the point in attacking her in a car, in the middle of a parking lot, where there *could* have been other people around, as opposed to...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #11 *ARREST*

    Is there any way we can get people to stop talking about the Airbnb non-connection? It has nothing to do with anything, it would be no different if AA happened to be a landlord. It's personal to me since I am a Airbnb Superhost who takes meticulous care of my guests, and I am the norm, not the...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #11 *ARREST*

    I don't know...it just seems weird to me. Well, the whole thing is weird, of course. But how the heck did he attack her in the car and somehow get her back to his house and what...carry her in? IDK it just seems that she may have been still under her own power till she got to the house with him...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #11 *ARREST*

    Thanks Pixie. I know just enough about IT to be dangerous. The only way that they can be sure it was literally turned off, I think, is if they have the actual phone and can look at the log, and if they do have her phone (do they have her actual phone?) they could maybe tell from there. But from...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #11 *ARREST*

    Not trying to be difficult, but how do they know that for sure? That it was turned off, and not just inactive? Just trying to piece together what happened when she got in that car with him. I was thinking that it was perhaps low on battery - she had been traveling, and possibly using it to watch...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #11 *ARREST*

    I am curious, and again this may have been asked and answered but if so I did not see it. Did LE say definitively that her phone was turned off right around 3 a.m.? Or, that there were just no more communications after that? In other words, she probably wouldn't be sending/receiving...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #10 *ARREST*

    Philadelphia Magazine used to have (this is early 90's) ads in the back that literally said "Wealthy man looking for young, beautiful women for companionship". It's not the dating apps that are the problem, and I also think that honestly, they help when it comes to tracking down a perp when a...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #10 *ARREST*

    Boy, that makes three of us that are just dang lucky to have lived through our early years! I was in my late teens/early 20's in the late 80's early 90's and it was crazy then, too. It's the social media and 24/7 news that makes it so obvious now, but all of this stuff happened then, too. Also...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #10 *ARREST*

    If a complaint is filed, you are shut down. Immediately. I have never had a bad review, but I know if you do receive them, you can be shut down if it continues (and by 'bad review', I mean...there were roaches or the sheets were dirty....not something heinous). Airbnb does what they can, but...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #10 *ARREST*

    What you are saying makes sense, if we had been strangers. She had been with us several months prior, and knew us very well by that point - I probably should have mentioned. We also had spoken at length with her parents, so they 'knew' us (via video chat) as well, for the express purpose of...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #10 *ARREST*

    Exactly! I said pretty much the same thing. These relationships have been going on forever. Some happily, some not. It's not the 'nature' of the relationship. It's the fact that a predator is a predator.
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #10 *ARREST*

    I maybe spoke too soon. The more accurate answer is that I really don't know in detail what all they do. I do not have any criminal history, so, obviously, wouldn't have been flagged for any reason, but perhaps they checked into me more than I was aware! I do know that as a host my guests are...
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #10 *ARREST*

    Ah! I knew I saw it somewhere but couldn't find it. You are welcome!
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    Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #10 *ARREST*

    This may be a moot point, but someone awhile back asked what one needs to do to be an Airbnb host. I am one, and the answer is "not much". You list your space, take some pics, and you're good to go. Your listing definitely needs to be approved by Airbnb, but unless it looks horrible or you don't...
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    Found Deceased UT - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #4

    Ah, thank you. I missed the piece where there was someone there to meet her that the driver was aware of.

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