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Thank you. The pearl clutching over the dog is distracting jmo.

Anything in particular that brings you to that conclusion? 🫤

I've stayed in those cabins. It's very remote and secluded. Ideal place to go if you're planning on committing a crime.

Or perhaps someone in LE leaked it to TMZ?

I thought the same thing. Doesn't sound great.

Well, this definitely makes it sound more like an abduction than an outright murder at the house.

This one's been making me think of my grandpa: same age, recently widowed. Living along and doing just fine. I'd be dumfounded if someone managed to pull something on him; I imagine the Guthrie family feels much the same way.

Does she have any other children beyond Savannah? Wikipedia didn't reveal anything one way or another.

The only case I can think of off the top of my head where a person removed a body from the home after murder was the woman in New York who was located in a suitcase. In that case she had been having an affair, ended things, and the ex-lover was the culprit. JMO but I believe it will be...

Well this is a pleasant surprise. I thought he'd slip through the cracks.

On the little that's been released so far, I have fairly grim expectations on this outcome. 😐

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/crime-desk/article-15503111/rex-heuermann-serial-killer-coworker-behavior-stalking-cruise.html He had seemed like a normal family man who worked hard and got on well with his co-workers but secretly he was allegedly leading a double life and went undetected for...

Thank you both for bringing me up to speed!

Thank you so much for the summary! A few more questions: Was the au pair: 1) Legally implicated in the plot to kill the wife by LE or 2) Morally implicated in the plot by the husband? Has the au pair cooperated with the state and their argument or has she come out in support of the man...

Is there a good re-cap/summary article on this case? Everything I've tried picking up on seems incredibly convoluted. Or are there any friendly members who have a "TL;DR" version they'd be willing to explain? 😇

I’m scraping for any mention for her in the news. It’s starting to seem shameful the lack of movement in her case.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/investigators/2026/01/30/titusville-teens-death-on-cruise-ship-still-under-investigation-records-indicate/ TITUSVILLE, Fla. – Nearly three months after a Titusville teen was found dead on a cruise ship, records obtained by News 6 indicate the case remains under...

All speculation and opinion, but maybe she was prone to overreaction? Or more to the point, perhaps MM was a superb gaslighter. "Yo, Mo', why are you so paranoid that I took a picture of the dorm room we shared together a decade ago?" "Yo, Mo', why are you so paranoid that I adopted the same...

I don't buy into this posing theory 1) because it's being presented by the defense and 2) wasn't it stated/accepted that Xana interrupted the initial attack on the two girls and was the ultimate martyr? That he had to abruptly stop his initial attack (I.E.THAT'S WHY HE FORGOT THE KNIFE SHEATH)...

You rock!