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  1. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    Many thanks to Bartt for that link. I just listened to one of the broadcasts and one thing I am unclear about is whether Suzie was going to testify. I have argued that her statement would have had to be “authenticated.” That would have been done if she had directly testified. In the only...
  2. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I would like to suggest it was someone at the Hanover party. He/they could simply have followed them home. If not it must have been someone who was trusted. It could have been a cop. It would have been someone who was trusted; that is the one constant. The number of such people had to be...
  3. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I recall that he said this had affected him for many years. I’m sure this was written about in the local newspaper. To my knowledge he never contested it. I did a Google. It was published April 30, 2015 in the Springfield News-Leader.
  4. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    Oddly enough, McGruder was the officer who signed off on the police report. However I doubt he was involved. He can’t be ruled out. Child *advertiser censored* was his deal. He has a problem. He said he had the impulse for many years. I don’t get those people at all.
  5. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    Let me posit a theory about the placement of the purses. If in fact the van was parked on the corner of Kentwood and Delmar, and the girls almost certainly came in from the east side of the driveway. the perps may have been blocked by their cars and the purses were all grabbed to get at the...
  6. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    You are entitled to your opinion. I am satisfied he was not in Springfield that night. It is irrelevant either way. So far as I am concerned the subject is closed.
  7. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I’d be happy to do that if I had access to the police files.
  8. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I’d be happy to do that if I had access to the police files. Neither do I have access to any source that can definitively prove he was in town. I don’t believe it is particularly important either way. However we do have the last official police statement about the perp. Clearly that implies...
  9. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    In no way am I relying on what Mr. Clay has said.
  10. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I’m not exactly following you. So far as I can tell, Riedel was not in town the night the women went missing. According to a investigator to this case he saw the actual police report and Riedel was not in town. I’ve not personally seen it, however. The newspaper was therefore wrong. Was it...
  11. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    As I checked further the source that he was in town came from the Newspaper’s belief only. Mr. Clay has long maintained Riedel had left for Illinois sometime in February per my recollection. I dug deep into this and there was nothing established of an evidentiary nature that the police had...
  12. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I’ve been doing some further study of Joe Riedel’s whereabouts on June 7, 1992. What seems to be true is that he was NOT in Springfield that night. I apologize for bringing this up again but everything else seems to lead to dead ends. I keep coming back to one male perpetrator who likely...
  13. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I agree, But if a classmate was involved he or she would only be in their mid to late 40’s. We have to remember that whoever this was was let in because one of the three women must have recognized the perp as trustworthy.
  14. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I touched on this earlier but there hasn’t been much discussion. I have been operating on the assumption that the third member of the crypt vandals was not in Springfield at the time the women went missing but was in Illinois. That does not appear to be correct. If that is the case, why was...
  15. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I may have made a grievous error in this previous post. There is some reason to believe that Mr. Riedel was in town that night. That would have provided opportunity if he were involved. Yet so little is known about him while the emphasis seems to be on Mr. Recla and Mr. Clay. According to at...
  16. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    It is not that important how accurate the program was, but the “teenish” comment came from Janis if I recall correctly. That is new, and I think potentially very important. I believe there were other obscene calls made as well. Asher also emphases that call. My surmise is that the “teenish”...
  17. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I believe all three would have gone in one car to Branson. Had Suzie and Sherrill had been abducted on Thursday, neither one would have been seen on Friday. But that would have been less unusual than three women being abducted on Saturday. And not as widely reported. I would have taken one...
  18. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    I have asked Mr. Clay many times to ask Mr. Recla to put forth his version of events. My understanding is that he just wants to remain in the background as is his right. To my knowledge, Mr. Riedel has never spoken about this case. My understanding is that he was not in town the night the...
  19. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    If he has, I haven’t seen it. However, I believe strongly he and Michael Clay have been in touch and speaks through him. My personal opinion is that the crypt vandals had nothing to do with this crime. IMO, the motive is simply not there. In my opinion, this crime had much more to do with...
  20. Missouri Mule

    Missouri - The Springfield Three--missing since June 1992 - #15

    So far as I can recall the van was seen on the corner of Delmar and Kentwood. There was also the sighting of an older sedan across the street at the Signal store. Those are the only two solid sightings that I know of. I think the APCO sighting was bogus because a woman having Sherrill’s...

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