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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    It is the only thing we have if a predator larger than us attacks, our voice, Athena was taught stranger danger, and she obviously listened, and she did use her voice, it wasn't enough to save her, but she did all she could never be meek is my motto, we must teach all girls that if a man...
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    TH had moved from the fantasy part of predation to actual predation, and the first child that fitted his fantasy and was easy to snatch would be the one he took, this unfortunately was Athena, but it could have been any young girl on his Fed Ex route, I wonder if the system in his van had...
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    GUILTY AZ - Allison Feldman, 31, Scottsdale, 17 February 2015 #4 *Arrest*

    yes, I would like to know what aggravating facts they could consider, and what the jury agreed on, I am surprised by how little coverage the trial is now getting, very few reports from inside court ,@Niner always hunts down the few snippets there are
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    some reporters have stayed in court to watch/listen so we may learn how the jury reacted
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    they are playing the video/audio of the van to jury, that video that Judge has said only jury needs to hear
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    very rarely do we get to see a murderers behavior in real time post the murder
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    GUILTY AZ - Allison Feldman, 31, Scottsdale, 17 February 2015 #4 *Arrest*

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/death-penalty-still-possibility-ian-231202492.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAABKyik0ZZE7FdzKZ4xg4Fb-2F2uux6oadYNvtjoT7iGAcr6_qgMbZ0j9Sb7x4H5-e77-OHYwbQ6lZKEPEITgTcWCsy26kBAO3VNdztumOU4TZXanNRZeTo6CfIjEUGf4tWKe...
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    GUILTY AZ - Allison Feldman, 31, Scottsdale, 17 February 2015 #4 *Arrest*

    I did find a video on you tube but can't copy it over, it said sentencing would start at 10.30am today and could go till end of may, nobody seems to be streaming it live it is on @12newsAZ, there is also lots of videos from the trial on there
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    if her daughter was as fierce and determined and as strong as her mother she would have fought him so hard, and I love they don't dim her personality, she sounds like a firecracker, they are happy to let people know she was wild and feral, but also loved princess dresses and barbies, she loved...
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    because it was YSTR any male relatives of TH on the paternal line could be included so they cannot definitively say it is TH, it is obvious it is his, but the court has to and IMO should ensure that all results testified about are scientific, are validated and the correct interpretation is made...
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    right hand fingernail clippings from AS, YSTR testing done, TH cannot be excluded, (plus all his male relatives) left hand fingernail clipping no results mentioned
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    Fed Ex truck swabs, passenger side, cargo area, mixture of 3, very strong support for TH and moderate support for AS DNA, driver side wheels well swabs, mixture of 3, TH and AS included in mixture - strong support for both
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    AS and TH DNA was found in stain on his Fed Ex shirt found in the shed (you all remember shed) this was skin cells, sperm was also found in stain this was TH, no AS
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    she did YSTR testing on oral, vaginal and anal swabs from Athena, YSTR means she extracted the male DNA only, and found TH or his male relatives could not be excluded from all 3 swabs, she also testified to finding sperm cells (or semen didn't hear it clearly) in the vaginal swab
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    another very good witness, explaining her testing, and TH or his male relatives couldn't be excluded from YSTR DNA testing on her vaginal, oral, or anal swabs
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    the world is in the biggest mess it has ever been, but we need to be reminded that the world is full of mostly good people and he is the exception to the rule, the witnesses who have testified from LE to analysts to SA victims have all come together to convict the predator who murdered Athena...
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    implied is a good word for it, taking a female child shows sexual motive, naked could be to get rid of evidence could also be implied sexual motive as he kept her clothes on his property so not a bright spark is evidence removal was his plan, one thing I do find myself noticing more and more is...
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    GUILTY TX - Athena Strand, 8, Abducted & Murdered by FedEx Contract Driver, Tanner Horner, Paradise, 30 November 2022 #2

    we do not know if there has been any discussion of stipulations, from either side, I am sure none would have been made pre the guilty plea from the defense side, as they were prepared to argue (as they have in this sentencing phase) about chain of custody, and why they wanted everybody's...

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