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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Oh Sandoval, your opinion must be so frustrating to those who keep trying to ram home the message: "Women, take heed. If you’re married and choose to take a trip to an interesting country without your family, it’s not because you can’t afford to take everyone, or that you...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Something I always found unfortunate and which may have had had bearing on that tragic walk are the vagueness of the texts between SS and T. Too bad that a more exact time/place wasn't selected for their meet. In my own experience, if I'm going to meet someone at a museum, the theatre or Tower...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    No, I cant get rid of the boot either. I was just going by Lavy's original translation (which is where SRose's link takes you) that she crossed a road in Cankurtara and just googled 'Cankurtaran". I'll try to find another source for the translation. But Sophie Rose has an excellent map(701) of...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    SR, I'm confused. Cankurtaran is all the way down Kennedy and it looks like a fairly busy neighborhood, so do you think she walked all that way from the bridge? Google maps puts 'Cankurtaran' near a 'Star hotel" and 'Hippodrome". ???
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    If those videos are the best they have, I am with you and don't think it looks like her, in fact, it could be any of a hundred women, the video is too poor. I'm just assuming that they must have better videos, perhaps closeups inside some place that look clearer, like the airport video. Or...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    SophieRose. Thank you! What a great map! Yes, those red dots, that's kind of where I assumed she might have wanted to go in her nice outfit. But it looks like she didn't. I was thinking maybe she didn't make the turn, but I'd think she would have been smart enough to figure that out fairly...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    I don't know.... I really hope they are absolutely positive they have the right girl on those videos. It looks so isolated. Just can't imagine her mindset... In Amsterdam it seems like she stuck with a male when she went around and shot those pics. In NYC looks like she's usually with a...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    I just looked at the google maps for Yeni Cami. So are you saying she passed that Ankara CD road on the right? That's where I thought she might have been going as it looked like if she crossed Kennedy and walked up Ankara there were touristy things to see. However, if she continued past it...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Thanks Thinkhard, I appreciated your answer and I also want to thank you for sharing all your valuable insight into the city of Istanbul. I've learned so much from reading your posts and those of others like you who know the country. As for stylish jeans, younger girls may wear them even at...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Hi Roland, No I believe all major cities in Spain are just as cosmopolitan as NYC and Istanbul. But when the daughter goes to visit her family and they are going to church or to dinner with her grandparents, she dresses more conservatively.If she was going to a club in Madrid she would dress...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    I agree. I think the Turkish police are much too smart to be fooled or tricked by questionable or lying witnesses. They've continuously maintained that they are holding onto 95% of the evidence (which is a major feat in itself, as other nations would have leaks all over the place) So I'm...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Thanks, Yes, Exactly. Wish they'd give more than a 2 second look. The image is poor quality enough, and no time, no dates to even connect it sequentially to the others. It looks like 'the person' takes off the jacket, holds it in right hand, then (hit pause at .28 or at end of video)...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Looking at the latest video alleged to be Sarai, I realize the image is very quick, but, in the last frame, does anyone thing she's wearing a backpack or taking off a scarf? That hand movement? yavuz oymak tv8 sarai sierra cinayeti amerika cıa mit tecavüz özel haber tinerci laz ziya -...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Thanks I know LOL, this whole case is crazy! But so many really interesting ideas from all you posters, just keeps me intrigued! (I keep trying to add those cute yellow faces and characters in my message but no matter if I click on them, they don't appear, oh well... giving up on it.)
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Hi Thinkhard. I am so confused. I am part of the older generation- Don't have a texting phone or an Ipad, just a cheap cell phone that I rarely even charge. So I will leave the tech stuff & answers of when to you guys.
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Thank you! This makes sense and clears up the crazy confusion. SO| the text was sent at 9:20 AM Istanbul time. which would have been 2:20 a.m. in NYC. It makes sense. Of course, this would never have been an issue if media reports would simply have have been accurate in their wording from the...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    Not to belabor the "stealing the phone/Ipad so as to give alibi and pretend person is alive..." but heres another case in the news now in NewYork,a girl went missing Dec. 19. They just found her body, but short texts had been sent by "her" (duh..her phone) to make it seem like she was alive...
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    What skype calls to the US??? Wow Did I miss something? When was a skype call made to the US
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    GUILTY Turkey - Sarai Sierra, 33, NY woman murdered, Istanbul, 21 Jan 2013 - #5

    I don't know. It might be exactly as the latest newspaper reports say. That she is the girl on the video who goes walking to a bad place and gets killed because she made a bad decision. Or maybe she made a bad decision on the evening of 20th and that got her killed. Maybe it's as simple as...

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