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According to the interview with Andrew’s dad The Disappearance of Andrew Gosden. Interview with Kevin Gosden. family were investigated by the police and “cleared”. Like you say though @haroldchasen there is very little reference to anyone outside the family having been spoken to or...

What a beautiful baby Kermani was :( Reading what they did to him is beyond unbearable; it’s the worst one yet. What is wrong with people? What is it about inadequate parents that they are drawn to monsters who will abuse and eventually kill their children, all because they can’t bear to be...

I’m somewhat confused as to why this case hasn’t got the levels of interest on here that Arthur’s has. Three threads compared to 9 pages?! I haven’t commented much on either because to be honest I can only take so much and it’s not much, but it seems like baby Star has been completely...

Wishful thinking I reckon, sadly, unless the judge realises that the public need to see them being made an example of.

I know this is a way back but no. There’s absolutely no evidence, even anecdotal, to suggest that prescribed pain medication turns people into child abusers.

I don’t believe for a second that Arthur was “put in the shower” merely as a confined space. With everything else these monsters did it wouldn’t surprise me if he was waterboarded too.

This isn’t fair or necessarily true. You can be the best parents in the world and still end up with an adult child who is a criminal.

Is there a thread for McKenzie Taylor? My search isn’t working. Leicestershire Police make appeal over missing girl, 14 Police are 'extremely concerned' over the safety of a 14-year-old schoolgirl missing for three days | Daily Mail Online

Honestly, no one gave a damn did they? As far as the authorities were concerned, Vishal was a working class, brown, and therefore totally expendable little boy. It’s so heartbreaking.

It would be nice if there were as many hours and forum pages devoted to them as there are to Andrew. Sadly most of them wouldn’t even raise a spark of recognition in most people, even in the “true-crime” community :(

Still seems odd to me that no one has mentioned his girlfriend/partner and their unborn child.

I don’t think there’s any great mystery to the fact they’ve all been charged with murder. Presumably they all participated equally in killing poor little Logan. It used to be if they couldn’t prove who struck the “fatal blow” so to speak, then both or all parties got away with it. Thankfully...

What on earth did Hughes have going for him that she wanted to stay with him when she hated his child so much?? I genuinely can’t understand the mentality of people like this. They flit chaotically from one “relationship” to another so why didn’t she just leave if Arthur was such a problem to...

Did she know there was CCTV in the house? It seems beyond bizarre to me to blithely abuse and torture a child, knowing that it’s all being captured on video. Did Hughes install it to catch her at it or for some other reason?

Almost unbelievable isn’t it. No doubt in the inevitable Serious Case Review that will follow the trial, “lessons will be learnt” yet again :rolleyes:

I think we need to separate the autism and MH issues from the incel “politics”. Incels are pathetic misogynists who blame everyone else for their inability to find a girlfriend (which seems to be their main issue) rather than looking at their own personalities as the reason. They work each...

Because to a misogynist incel, his mother is the über-woman. She represents every woman and he blames her for literally everything wrong in his life :(

Would he be able to bargain Bee’s whereabouts for a lighter sentence?

You don’t have to be a member of any group though to have far-right leanings and ideologies.

So was he just “joking” when he made such statements in videos he posted online? Gunman boasts 'I'm a Terminator' in vids as he's revealed as 'virgin loner'