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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    This reads as if Salzmann believes that the punchers are involved with the disappearance. Another interview I've seen (I believe it was on video) seems to indicate that his theory involves a random abduction.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    Right, but who and why? And I believe he was in the first wave of POIs, because LE said that POIs include everyone with whom LS had contact that night, and didn't add "that we know of" or "that we have identified." I believe they were aware of the confrontation at that point.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    For better or worse. What would be the motives either way?
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    Arithmetic does not depend on the solver's personal perspective, defined by their experience and beliefs. We are looking through two rather different lenses.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    As I said in one of the two previous threads, they almost certainly are, unless LS was not physically present at the altercation.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    I believe you are stating as fact things that are not. The only report re CR and LS involvement that I know of said CR was paying what could be described as "inappropriate attention" to LS. Neither of us knows what that means, precisely. CR was punched once, perhaps twice. Is that "beat up"...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    I believe TG has reported that the 3:38AM witness saw LS and the mystery man sit on the steps at the Northwest corner of 10th and college. The steps are at the end of the arcade, leading below it to the sidewalk of 10th.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    I think the fixation on drawing the implication of a rift in the relationship from LS and CR's being together late at night is unwarranted. Are college girls with boyfriends not supposed to have a social life, even a "party" social life, apart from their boyfriend? This seems unrecognizant of...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    It's possible that others have released all of this as well, and just not talked about it. CR's attorney has had the most contact with the media, JR's and JW's the least. At least as between CR and JR, that may be a function of the differences in their existing relationships with and...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    Check out this video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjUk4tygR4A#t=2m33s If you pause 2 seconds in from where I marked it, you'll see one of the cameras on College between 11th and 10th, I believe the one in the middle of the block. It appears to be pointing South, and it certainly looks like...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    That's a great catch. I don't recall having seen it elsewhere, and wonder what the source is, and whether it's at all reliable. If true, it certainly puts much of the uncertain timeline on MB/CR, rather than JR. In general, I have seen some strange mixing between the stories of MB(/CR)...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    It is my impression, by the way, that JR is not very intelligent.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    I don't think this is at all inconsistent with JR's timeline. We have never been told when he said she arrived at his place, only when she left. Nor have we been told when she left (or arrived) CR/MB's, though we have been told what supposedly happened there (MB puts CR to bed, LS wants to...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    Are you under the impression that HT was with the group at JR"s earlier in the evening? I don't believe that that's the case. HT was with LS at Smallwood until 12:30AM, supposedly, when LS and DR (but not HT) went to JR's. Again, it makes sense to call DR at 415 because he is male, not...
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    The individual is friends with JR's roommates, to my understanding. He is relating what he heard from them, I would assume. I don't automatically credit what he says, but I wouldn't write it off completely either.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    It isn't right next to the window if you're upstairs.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    I'm not suggesting he's looking out the window, rather that he's leaning out the (open) window and looking up the street.
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    couldn't he have leaned his head out the window?
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    IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #11

    A little further than that - 0.6 miles on foot from 11th and college, 0.5 from Smallwood.

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