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    2nd Plea Deal Offered to Raven Abaroa Today! 3/11/14-

    Frigga, I think it's only a matter of time. After Janet was gone, he married again, a few years later. And he started maligning the new wife not too long after they were wed. Started telling people she was depressed and crazy and such ... almost like setting up a second act to what happened...
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    2nd Plea Deal Offered to Raven Abaroa Today! 3/11/14-

    Not to sound idiotic but can anyone explain to me what 'Voluntary Manslaughter' is? I've heard of 'Involuntary Manslaughter' (accidental death) but I don't understand the former.
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    2nd Plea Deal Offered to Raven Abaroa Today! 3/11/14-

    What I read online said he could be out as soon as 2018. (Credit for time served, etc.) Amounting to 8 to 10 years. I feel so sad for Janet's family.
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    Mistrial, Hung Jury - Raven Abaroa Murder in the 1st

    I think, given the type of controlling personality RA has been portrayed to have, that LWOP is a worse fate than DP.
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    Mistrial, Hung Jury - Raven Abaroa Murder in the 1st

    A-bloody-men to that! (It will never be perfect. You can't fix the loss of a life ... you can prevent harm from coming to others, so far as you are able, though).
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    Mistrial, Hung Jury - Raven Abaroa Murder in the 1st

    I will admit, I'm unhappy. But I have hope. I'd rather see a mistrial and the case retried (so they still have a shot at this) than to see him acquitted and go free. Justice for Janet may take a little longer than any of us wanted ... but it's still possible ... and I'll be grateful for that...
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    Mistrial, Hung Jury - Raven Abaroa Murder in the 1st

    Praying for Justice for Janet. Trying to find things to do to occupy my mind while waiting for a verdict. Feel like I've been holding my breathe with the waiting.
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    Anyone catch what she said her Boyfriend's name was (at the time)?
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    Braiden and Kaiden ... it's like twins ---NOT---
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    Was prosecution trying to allege that Raven was Walker's babydaddy?
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    Dayum, she got a chip on her shoulder.
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    Earth to Audio Tech, turn on your Mic!
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    I have video but no sound.
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    I'm under the impression that the jury is in a waiting room and Tyndall is in the hall waiting for his witness to show up. (She who is 'on her way' who has texted him, which is what he just told the judge before the feed died).
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    "I have been thinking about something, it seems the defense is trying awefully hard to prove something about Janet's family not being at the baby blessing. I wish the prosecution made more of a point to show that the Baby Blessing, is just a regular blessing. Anyone can get a blessing and it's...
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    I had heard he was excommunicated when he was living with Vanessa before they were married. (Breaking Temple Covenants is an excommunicable offense). Excommunication does not mean you cannot get rebaptized and come back to church (after a certain amount of time and presumably repentence).
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    "He could have been excommunicated because of the things he has done." He was excommunicated (or so I read online, several years ago).
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    It's hard to watch and live with. (Gma liked to talk negatively about everyone in the family, to everyone else ... so visiting her was hearing all the negative things she could think of about various family members ... even if you asked her not to talk about such things with you ...) I worry...
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    I came to accept that my Gma's mind in her later years was clouded by depression and by dementia. (She was like a toddler in an adult body, sometimes. Throw a fit and yell if she didn't get her way or if you disagreed with her. Call you names, etc.) I know that, deep down, that's not who she...
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    NC vs. Raven Abaroa ~ the Trial 3

    I'm glad your mom did apologize to you. I don't think it's right to ostricize ppl for choosing a religion/faith different than your own. My Gma refused to come to the baptisms when Mom and I were baptized. Said it was a cult. Wouldn't come. And years later told everyone she didn't come because...

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