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  1. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    This is very true. I was actually just thinking about this and thinking about how in many of these internet stranger abductions the girls do go willingly. Perhaps, if this is an internet relationship gone wrong, the man developed an obsession and Jayme was trying to cut it off. If she was...
  2. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    There could be a pitch difference or they could have heard the shots that killed Denise. Either way, someone corrected me above. I'll say, as a note, my voice and my Mom's voice, especially at that age, are quite distinguishable. A scream could be the mere sound or the person can scream...
  3. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    Thanks, I'm without power right now and am just on my phone. It's making it all pretty difficult to double check at the moment.
  4. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    I don't believe so. If I'm remembering correctly, he was dead when the police arrived from what the log said.
  5. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    They would have the time to question him and my gut would say that if he's facing time, he may squeal for a deal. Also, as far as locking people up on trumped up charges, the Sheriff in my county is notorious for it. So, it may always just be a ridiculous force or they may have arrested him...
  6. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    Yeah, I wouldn't know. Perhaps it's an inexperienced officer or an officer that isn't used to a case quite like this. It could always be made up by the neighbor, even though that seems oddly specific and pretty lurid. I know from growing up in a similar area that our officers weren't that...
  7. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    This is just my response due to my limited knowledge and a lot of Law & Order, but dead men can't pay debts. I mean, perhaps the loan shark thought he could sell Jayme into human trafficking, but it seems like a big stretch from making loans to selling a 13-year-old. That's just my opinion...
  8. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    Law enforcement did hear Denise's voice on her voicemail, so they may have used that for comparison. I know when I was 13, my voice was pretty high pitched, especially compared to my Mom's. (To keep it real, it still is.) So, there may have been a pitch difference that made it easy to...
  9. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    The same article hat quoted the 100% certainty quoted the 50/50 remark.
  10. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    I’m sure it’s been asked here but I can’t find the answer. What exactly is a family caretaker? Would that be a voluntary support person or one that was put with the family by social services or law enforcement?
  11. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    Indeed it is against the law. However, we’ve seen leaks published from law enforcement before from the JonBenet Ramsey case to the Trump investigation, including to more gossipy sources like the New York Post and Politico and so on.
  12. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    Also, the abductor could believe if they kill her parents then she will stay with him.
  13. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    Because they pay, much like the New York Post. It’s just a situation that could have happened. If you have an agent that needs cash, it’s always possible. The Trump leaks also had random agents leaking for pay. The Treasury had an employee arrested this week for attempting to do the same...
  14. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    I think the issue would be in subpoenaing the cell phone providers. Providers would require information about the subscriber or phone number. I know providers are generally less than willing to hand over information and often dodge them because handing over client data may end in them being...
  15. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    Yeah, my inherent need to know is always at battle with my understanding that police need to keep some information confidential. As far as leakers getting monetary compensation, even the New York Times has said there are appropriate times for it, though I would say this is not one of those...
  16. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    There may be a strategy in it. Also, this could be a statement made by an agent without the rest of the bureau knowing. Leakers do share information on their own for money many times.
  17. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    I mean, we’ve seen similar cases where the family is killed and a daughter is taken. Off hand I can think of Hannah Anderson, Shasta Groene, and Sarah maynard off the top of my head alone. Also, he could have met her somewhere else, I just lean to the Internet because of how things have...
  18. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    I have a hunch that she’s alive, even just going off cases that are quite similar to this one as far as a teenage girl being abducted and a family being murdered. I’m thinking of Sarah Maynard, Shasta Groene, and Hannah Anderson and the multiple similarities. My opinion only.
  19. awillis0513

    AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #7

    Actually, during Tibbetts they said 50/50 according to the article.

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