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    Lori Ruff Identified as Kimberly McLean of PA

    Drinking age was something that occurred to me too. The 1984 drinking age law was not fully in effect by 1988-- as Kim, she would have been grandfathered in and able to drink legally-- prior to the 1984 law, the drinking age in Idaho was 19 (will someone please check my math, I suck at math, and...
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    Lori Ruff Identified as Kimberly McLean of PA

    I definitely see your point here. However, I guess it doesn't seem as obvious to me as it does to you. She did choose Lori, true. But we don't know if it was under duress (real or perceived) and we don't know if she came to regret it. Considering the outcome, I think she might have. Nonetheless...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    I thought the same thing about the name-- the friend says what are the odds of her having the same name as family members, and I would think the odds are actually pretty good. Those were popular names. Having said that, I am now wondering if there was ever any connection found between the...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    I was wondering that too. Maybe referring to what the guy on YouTube who knew her said below? "this was not a very close friend of my Mom. In fact my mother got the vibe that Lori didn't like her initially, so my Mom didn't think too much of it. According to my mother, this bothered Lori...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    Thank you so much for this analysis. FLEK's teeth have been the subject of much scrutiny and speculation, so your analysis is really very helpful. One of the ideas that I have seen tossed around is that she may have sometimes worn temporary, removable teeth covers-- like snap on veneers. I...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    Good question! I certainly wonder. I am the same age as FLEK, and I share her daughter's name. I know, I know-- you probably thought my name was really Brunhilde :) in Seattle, I didn't go to school with a single other Jessica. Not one. I could count the number of Jessicas I met, of any age, on...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    Oh drat. Because I just found a record that linked to both AZ and investment broker. It was fun while it lasted!
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    I dont recall any of those names associated with FLEK before, is this new? Great find!
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    I am bumping this forward as we are talking about what is needed to get a copy of a birth cert. again. We definitely have conflicting information here. Of course I can't know for sure, but to me it seems more likely that the employee who was kind enough to provide those answers to SunnyNZ...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    Almost entirely speculation here, but it occurred to me that LEK's bankruptcy and debts to Dr. Cr@ne may have been racked up by LEK's mother, and not by LEK herself. Maybe LEK was the guarantor. S/S1988 said LEK's mom was not well-- might be true? And people such as landlords might be willing to...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    That is how I read it, Linda. To me it really looks like some is doing some tallying/counting centered around 40. Like 40 in 2 months or something like that. Maybe since 40 is such a milestone birthday, I can see her having to put some mental effort into mentioning/planning her own or someone...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    That is an excellent point, Gardener. Since custody seemed like it was going to be an issue (am I alone in thinking this?, their lawyers would likely have had to delve more deeply into their respective backgrounds. Presumably, BR had a lifetime of demonstrated stability, accomplishments, plus...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    i just re-read your post and learned a great deal -- thank you! Before I finished it, I got all excited and googled Dr. C. Cr@ne. The first one I came across was in Sandpoint, ID, which I thought was quite interesting. But you state that the correct Dr. Cr@ne is the one in Dallas. That makes...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    I have the kind of job in which people tell me very private things about their lives, their thoughts and feelings. I have met lots and lots of people who have dispositions similar to FLEK's, and it really cannot be overstated how difficult it can be for an introvert to live in a world comprised...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    http://live.seattletimes.com/Event/Live_chat_with_investigator_reporter_about_Jane_Doe_case?Page=1 "The Nevada question: We do not know if she ever spent time in Nevada but some time after her marriage to Jon Blakely Ruff they went to visit Las Vegas. They went through a second ceremony in Las...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    For me, knowing this book exists really helps to put the whole Tea Angle into perspective. It seems like it was quite a popular trend in Texas, so it makes LEK's interest in taking tea really very normal and commonplace. Maybe not terribly indicative of anything at all. The fact that the...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    Archive.org only goes back to Sept. 2007, unfortunately. And my initial impression is that the site hasn't changed much at all. I was was also thinking that she talked to "the son" like a kid because he was a kid. Blake mentioned that she didn't seem to have much experience with babies-- maybe...
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    TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #5

    At my university around 1988 many rich kids and the computer labs had laser printers and Macs. I remember well because I was wowed by the technology. It would have been easy to slide that letterhead in and print out that letter. Again, that co-Ed vibe comes up. That could also account for using...

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