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The bunch of calls of the 15th are mostly patty calling his cell. I don’t see any indication patty called her brother from the house line. Did she have a cell? Did anyone else try to reach ray on his cell on the 15th/16th that isn’t shown here? I feel like it would be normal even in 2005 for...

Listening now. Don’t recall him telling PF he would see her later on the phone call…

random question: was Ray likely in Raystown Lake when his daughter called on Thursday before he disappeared? It looks like she called his house at 10:48 AM, he didn't answer. It appears she waited a few minutes for him to call back then she called his cell at 10:52. She says she talked to him...

Haha, no in fact i was quite amused and meant to add another post saying so when I got distracted. I didn't know where either country was and just wanted it out there.

these are two completely different countries

Are you speculating about this? or has this been discussed and I'm forgetting? I'm just curious how she'd have enough money to retire at the same time as him if she was 20 years younger. Plus if he didn't have all that much saved...

and we still don't know who made the 11:03 phone call from the courthouse, is that correct?

wow, thanks for all this. was his phone traced? Do we know? If one plans to walk away why take the phone even off? Also at that point in time it was common to only turn the phone on to make a needed call. People didn’t have them on all the time, so that it was off doesn’t seem that weird to me...

Wasn’t the Fenton sighting of a man appearing to be Gricar in a car other than the mini?? And on the following day?

Possible that the “camera” that saw DG was a GoPro type thing a cyclist was using. Speculation

So impressed this was solved after all this time. Thinking of her family.

So sad for her family. ALL York county PA autopsies are sent to Allentown, this is standard. They are building a new morgue because the current one only holds 9 people for a county of 450,000. Here's why York's autopsies are done in Allentown (YDR opinion)

I'm very curious if she was spotted on the trail, and if she was, was she headed north or south. I believe I read she was from or staying in New Freedom, which is in Pennsylvania close to the Maryland border. If she wanted to disappear she could have just walked to Maryland from New Freedom...

I don't know, when I was on this part of the trail, I didn't have a reason to use my cell. I've noticed few places in York county with a lack of cell coverage, but its possible

I've been on this trail. York county has some really nice county parks, they are maintained well. Agree it would be very difficult to get lost. Most of the trail is at least 4 feet wide and the whole thing is smooth enough that bikes and scooters are a breeze. I'm wondering if the cell phone...

yeah, I'm reading through the charging documents now and I think that they misread inches for feet. Sorry for the confusion

yeah, I'm wondering if something was lost in translation. It's the only place I've seen feet in the media....but this article definitely spells it out... "A forensics team soon searched the area and found Stoltzfoos’ bra and stockings buried 6 to 8 feet underground in a wooded area near the...

Though Amish teen’s body is still missing, investigators find enough to pursue homicide charges 6-8 feet for a few pieces of clothing? Is this correct or inaccurate and or was there other evidence he dug back up? and I am heartbroken for her family

oh, I hope they are working hard behind the scenes on this. of note: Hamilton St. downtown is one way, 700 block is literally the center of the city. This is considered the "fancy, redeveloped" area of downtown, but rough areas are very close. any traffic at all and you're looking at more...

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