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I was looking at the website for the Boggs' farm: "Guess What?!All Meat Buyer's Club members get 30% OFF all cured meats!" I guess that may answer the question some had about where Devonte heard the term "cured meats" or where he got the idea of them even though the family was vegetarian.

I think part of why the Harts starved the kids and isolated them was so they could use the $$$ for their care on themselves and their lifestyle. It's expensive to feed and clothe 6 kids. But if you feed them starvation rations and only dress them up for photo ops and have them wander around in...

I see Markis, Jeremiah, Devonte, Ciera, and Abigail. I do NOT see Hannah. Based on the leaves on the ground and everyone's size, I would guess this was from Fall 2017. Was Hannah already dead by that time? I wish the cops would seriously look into that possibility.

I noticed in the birthday video that she has markedly hypermobile joints. Her elbows extend well past the 180 degree line when she holds her arms out. That's probably why her hand looks odd or contorted, here.

What do you mean by this? Clearly it DID work that way. They said he was older and had "behavioral issues" so they didn't want to adopt him with the rest of the siblings. It's in a couple of the MSM articles that were posted about the aunt and the Davis family background.

Yeah it HAD to be a sick inside joke about that scene. It has been mentioned several times by friends and so forth that being "super into classic pop culture" (like the Goonies or w/e) was part of Jen's "image."

I tried to tell her and she blocked me...I don't get how twitter works, obviously?

Dontay is Devonte's older brother who the Harts rejected and would not adopt with the other siblings. And yes I think he was 9 at the time.

Someone should reach out to a journalist or press member who has been covering this and see if they will pursue an interview. Kristin Rawls or one of the writers at Oregon Live....

To paraphrase the rationalization used by a different naturopath, in a different local case (not a newspaper worthy case, just humdrum legal system stuff) the growth charts are a tool of "the man" used to force arbitrary standards on people, and special folks, you know, enlightened ones who know...

In my own experience as a larger lady, fatness is especially demonized among the "all natural" crowd around here. As Jen figured out with her sinister cleverness, all she had to do was say the tiniest kid "used to be obese" and suddenly the scrutiny was off and she was a freakin' hero for...

In Oregon, naturopaths (who are NOT medical doctors--they do not complete a hospital residency, they do not take the medical board exam, they go to a naturopathic school that does not teach all the things taught in a medical school) are given privileges they are not allowed in many other states...

Control. Sadism. Jen projecting her own body/food issues onto her scapegoats.

Plus, I just recalled, Devonte, Jeremiah, and Ciera had already lost their oldest brother, because the Harts did not want him.

I am from the West coast and husband is from the upper midwest. The "sir" and "ma'am" thing would stand out as VERY unusual in either place. It's part of how Jen ran the place like an abusive commandant instead of a mother.

That's what I really cannot comprehend. Given their history and all the circumstances in those documents, WHY were they not asked to sign a parenting safety plan that included following up with the same doctor a certain number of times in the next year????

They literally look worse than the kids Sally Struthers was begging donations for on TV in the 80s.

I have a very strong hunch that Jen said that as a kind of sick inside joke with herself. Like "oh you guys think I am a child abuser, well, I think this is all a big joke, haha."

Sarah and Jen probably threatened with that, with all the other times CPS had been called on them. I know my abusive parents threatened me and my brother with it all the time--"oh yeah, you think this is bad, well let them take you away and you will never see each other again."

In that case I will say that the friends of the family seemed to confirm the suspicion many of us have had here that Hannah and Markis were the scapegoats, and Devonte was the golden child, given privileges and affections the others were not allowed.