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  1. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    https://www.cbs58.com/news/termination-hearing-for-uvalde-school-police-chief-pete-arredondo-is-delayed-again Termination hearing for Uvalde school police chief Pete Arredondo is delayed again I just don't understand. ONCE AGAIN the elected officials are deflecting and obfuscating not only...
  2. Wise Old Owl

    GUILTY MI - 4 students killed, 6 injured, Oxford High School shooting, 30 Nov 2021 *Arrest incl parents* *teen guilty* #4

    https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2022/08/03/oxford-high-school-security-guard-thought-shooting-was-a-drill-attorney-states/ QUOTE: The attorney said that the security guard told investigators that when she saw Myre, she thought they were using good makeup for the ALICE drill...
  3. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    But they are closing that location (school) and redistributing the children throughout the other campuses - so why would they need a principal for Robb anyway? JMHO
  4. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    I didn't take it that way. He knows he is in a position that "can't be retaliated against" because he has tenure at the college. He could possibly take some heat though. He's been there long enough to see some things first hand. What I took from it was that the majority of working class...
  5. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/uvalde-closeness-complicates-accountability-shooting-87291499 Quote: Family ties and political struggles go back generations in Uvalde, a community where nearly three-quarters of the residents are Hispanic. Locals had largely revered the police before the...
  6. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    https://www.cbsnews.com/video/uvalde-community-reacts-to-school-shooting-investigation-with-outrage-at-district-board-meeting/ This just reinforces what I've been saying. These people are angry and rightfully so! Ya know - I used to put a banner up in my classroom RESPECT + RESPONSIBILITY =...
  7. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    <modsnip: Quoted post was removed> ... this happened in a small town. One that reported zero murders in 2021 - which tells you that LE in that town are not used to confronting violent felons. Response time is critical in any emergency situation - every second counts. The majority of these...
  8. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    No, its not "burnout". And this is JMHO I believe he shimmied his way up the ladder in his "career". They say "its not what you know but who you know (I use a different word but can't say it on here ;) ). He kept his head down, did what he needed to do to get by, and "buddied" his way...
  9. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    https://www.npr.org/2022/07/18/1111940710/uvalde-texas-shooting-committee-report-arredondo-police "After Arredondo entered the school, he went to classroom 110, which had bullet holes, but no children were inside. He then "prayed" the kids in rooms 111 and 112, where the gunman fired more than...
  10. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    Ok next section - Robb Elementary Facilities & Management & Policies for Locking Doors & Maintenance of Doors & Keys Robb Elementary had a new principal beginning with the 2021–22 school year. (So it was her first year as a principal. She had been an asst principal for 3 yrs previous.) Robb...
  11. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    OMG The press conference as a whole was just "eeehh". I do realize that they were only tasked with putting out the verifiable facts. There were a couple of questions about PA but those last 2 minutes. That woman was hot and the room seemed to agree with her. They want PA's head on a stick...
  12. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    I'm going to pull things from the report that are new to me (us) - that I haven't seen before. I'll do it in sections - according to the report section. First- the background of the shooter. 4 | T HE A TTACKER The FBI interviewed a former girlfriend of the attacker who believed one of A.R.’s...
  13. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    Here's one: "SIR! Mr. PA if you can hear me - please turn yourself in to the nearest police station for insubordination, gross negligence, dereliction of duty, and willful breech of policy (that you wrote!)" I still can't get over this fact - that he called this guy on the phone. That is...
  14. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: I have only read through half the report so far. What is blatantly obvious and totally infuriating so far is this: (From the report section - 3 | R OBB E LEMENTARY S CHOOL S ECURITY & F ACILITIES O VERVIEW - Active Shooter Plan "Uvalde CISD Police Chief...
  15. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    I go back to the "good ole days" when we were told to keep a can of wasp spray in our desks. That stuff can shoot (pretty accurately) a good 10-15 feet. And you can hit an intruder in the eyes from a distance. But, on the flip side - you hit an intruder with an AR in the eyes - he's just...
  16. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    Yep! A lot of revisions came from the Parkland shooting. The arming of teachers, and even the guardian law "Aron Feis" was enacted in Florida because of Parkland. I saw something very interesting the other day on SM. A young, newly graduated teacher had been talking with her parents and...
  17. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    After everyone had run the obstacles - we collected as a group. The guys started talking about how we all reacted and we were just trying to "save ourselves" and what would you do if you have 15-20 little kids that you have to save as well? By then, most of the teachers were in a state of...
  18. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    Ok - but this is gonna be long. Yes, there is one particular training that really "stuck" with me. It was in either 2014 or 2015. It was held on a teacher planning day - so no students in the school. The school had hired a private consulting firm to conduct it. It was 3 or 4 (I think there...
  19. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    And that is the problem. These shootings have gone on long enough (and the shooters are always between 17-18 & 21-22) so they have been "students" at one time or another and participated in the drills - so they know what the school is going to do. I keep saying this - THEY ARE LEARNING...
  20. Wise Old Owl

    TX - Uvalde; Robb Elementary, 19 children and 3 adults killed, shooter dead, 24 MAY 2022 #3

    No - there is no hiding under desks. Active shooter drills have evolved over the years. It usually depends on the district - with smaller rural districts not really doing them at all. At first - we were instructed to get kids into storage closets (if your room had one) - but that went out the...

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