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But Pam Paugh was not allowed into the basement so John's golf bag never made it out of the house, AFAIK. Although, based on the BPD's incompetence in general, I would not be surprised to find that one of the police officers might have gone down and fetched it back up for her...

Is this Elle from FFJ?

No, the fibers that were found on her bed were rope, perhaps from a rope she'd used as a photo prop, and as I recall, the rope might have been under her bed in a paper bag.

The strike was on the top REAR of her head, so no bruising to her forehead.

No, bleeding from the ear(s) or nose does not necessarily mean a fatal wound, and a normal parent untrained in the medical field, would not assume that to be the case. My son bled from his right ear after he fractured his skull while skateboarding. He was not unconscious, and I knew this was...

That wasn't from CBS, it's always been Dr. Spitz's pet theory. And now that you mention it, I think the idea of "one piece of pineapple" did come from the CBS show, because they mentioned "grabbing A piece of pineapple" several, if not many, times during the show. It just shows how easily we...

Where did you get this information? It was not in the autopsy report. Who ever said that she ate only one piece of pineapple or that she chewed it in a hurry? Please remember not to just spread information that is not fact-based.

From your keyboard to God's eyes, to twist the normal idiom.

Thank you! I used this username a lot when my kids were younger and that was what I heard all day, "Hey Mom! Hey Mom! Mom! Hey Mom!" :) See, I don't know if JR & PR were really all that abnormal. I think they had their flaws, yes, and being in denial about their son was one of those...

And others believe it to be a burn, from perhaps a cigarette or a cigar, but I think the ME would know the difference between a burn and an abrasion.

No I think Userid was thinking of the mark on JonBenet's cheek, the one that might look like a burn, but that the ME called an abrasion.

I'm not buying it. Put yourself into that scenario and imagine what you, as a reasonable human being, would do. You'd freak the hell out if you didn't even know your daughter was dead and then you found her body while the police were still there. Consequences be damned, you'd yell for help...

I never think of it, but it could still be lurking around here.

But why, if JR found JonBenet in the basement, would he not have called police to her location immediately? If he didn't know what had happened, why would he play along and not just cooperate fully with police in the first place?

Thank you for that post, kanzz.

I don't put people on ignore.

It's hard for those of us who have been following this case for 20 years to deal with people who have to go through all of the FALSE information in order to realize some basic facts. A stun gun was not present and was not used. The marks on JonBenet were very likely from toy electric train...

You may as well include a cattle-prod as a possibility. The Ramseys didn't own a cattle-prod and one was never found at the house but what the heck, it MIGHT have been used to try and jolt JBR awake, right? Following Lou Smit's rabbit trails will lead you further and further away from reality...

No, the Ramseys were throwing their friends under the bus before lawyers got involved. Just inviting them all over to the house that morning puts them into an active crime scene and could have contaminated the body with the friends' DNA. They weren't thinking of anyone but themselves from the...

Just one tiny problem...No one knew about the head wound until the ME peeled back her scalp. They all thought she had died from the ligature strangulation.