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    Found Deceased AZ - Jerold Williams, 5, Jacob Lake, 6 Aug 2015

    Kids will be kids that is true, and they most often reflect the actions of their elders, or those who have the most contact with them. That is not to say they are adults, rather they are malleable, and should be protected and guided to grow up to be adults in their own way. So, who were the...
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    Found Deceased AZ - Jerold Williams, 5, Jacob Lake, 6 Aug 2015

    Very true, this is so important. Thank you Jules.
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    Found Deceased AZ - Jerold Williams, 5, Jacob Lake, 6 Aug 2015

    How frightening, I hope all is better now. If Jerold didn't have good hearing at 5 years old wouldn't the mother and family have either known this and/or told LEO this immediately? Who is the mother? And father? Why hasn't this information been mentioned?
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    Found Deceased AZ - Jerold Williams, 5, Jacob Lake, 6 Aug 2015

    Hello, I agree and have been reading this post on little Jerold, may he RIP. Live in North AZ and as a mom I wonder a few things. Steelman's map was very good, maybe I missed it up-thread but is the exact location of the family camp known? I didn't find that in press. Maybe their camp was a...
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    Found Deceased AZ - Isabella Grogan-Cannella, 8, Bullhead City, 2 September 2014 - #3

    So sad. I hope I don't get banned for my harsh words. The article says "Cannella has fathered seven children" How many of these children are raised by relatives? All of them. It's a cycle of NO responsibility. Looking for the easy way out, getting high on hardcore drugs and doing anything to...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    Hi all - I am so very sorry for that big rainbow!!!! I posted, computer froze (gee, wonder why) then went to bed. Have learned my lesson and will be more careful in the future about attachment size. Sheesh, I am very embarrassed!
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    That is a big question and I am willing to bet that young Sarah has told LE all she knows given the circumstances and her family is helping her go through this tough time. To protect herself, the rest of her family and LE's investigation, I am also willing to bet many details will not come out...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    Latest news from Knox County and environs in finding Tina, Kody, and Stephanie. http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/index.html http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/ohio-news/ohio-town-grieves-after-3-missing-are-found-1007324.html God bless these families, friends and neighbors...I imagine...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    I have a feeling he may have been "rebuffed" by one of the two moms in the past. Maybe mh had crossed paths with either one of them at some point, or a few points, in the past few years since he got out of prison and moved back to Ohio. One of the WS posters in the beginning had a really good...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    Great point, especially if the appeal/parole boards are tough and there is a good amount of rehabilitative services to go along with it! Our laws seem so much more complex (convoluted?) in the US. What if a person is eighteen, takes out a few people, and still serves 25 year sentences...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    Thank you crocus for putting pictures in one place! I have not seen the first pic and am glad, she does look like a strong and brave girl! Blessings :hug:
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    I wonder if the most serious charges (basically all charges), outside of kidnapping in this case, are being held for the Grand Jury. Kidnapping was enough for a 1 million dollar bond, no bonding out for mh with 10% or any %, that bond was so high mh is not going anywhere, for a long time, other...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    Maybe it's because of the discovery today? It took me awhile to find a thread with active posting as well (had to catch up on several threads and heard about the tragic outcome, stunned really). I'm still confused as to when exactly LE found the bodies, although after reading all of the great...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    I think so too grayjay. Then there is the problem of welfare checks. Somehow we have got to "untie" the hands of law when it is regarding the welfare of a person(s), even if they are over 18, if they have given their friends/co-workers a key to their house and/or a legitimate agreement to call...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #7

    Sorry, away for a day and am still behind in reading all the posts from Tue/Wed. I feel awful after hearing this evening's news. I'm sure this is not the outcome everyone was hoping for; I (and I'm sure many others) had a bad feeling, but there is always that glimmer of hope one holds onto. My...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #5

    Yes, you are right, but if mh just got off parole this past October hopefully LE would know what mh's whereabouts were until then. Back at his parents house temporarily? (maybe they are trying to distance themselves too, can't say that I blame them, although enabling is a different thing...) A...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #5

    Had to read many comments to get to the one about "were the creep lived". Makes me wonder where did mh live, before the 5 bedroom house? His mom said he hadn't lived with them for 2 years, and he moved into the 5 bedroom house a year ago. Where did he live in between? :steamed:
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #5

    I wonder who Stephanie's recent husband is as well, it would be helpful to know more about her family! I am not ragging on you antiquegirl, but I need to make a point, please do not take offense! The whole situation with Tina, Kody and Stephanie still missing does not bode well for anyone...
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #5

    Maybe he borrowed it from his mom, stepdad, relative, friend? Hope not, what a terrible thing for them to have loaned mh a vehicle, and him to commit crimes while using it. :sick:
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    GUILTY OH - Two women & child killed, 13yo abducted, Apple Valley, 10 Nov 2010 #5

    Not sure yet how to quote from a previous thread, but here's one from MBLover in thread 4: Actually the first thing I thought when I saw the dents - was trying to back up or pull forward between 2 trees or 2 posts. Years ago...the road I grew up on, at the very top of it were no houses and...

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