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  1. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    Yeah, I think F was gonna get off by appeal, then they retried him. Ick, makes my skin crawl.
  2. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    Tho, didn't Jayden Leskie's accused murderer get off after going to trial, as well as that father who drove his three sons into a dam - in Qld I think - didn't he go to trial twice? Ya never know.
  3. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    I see a third option - he has a conscience, but has not connected the dots yet. He is overwhelmed by his emotions, which has stopped him thinking, and allowing his conscience to realise what he has done. I imagine in this scenario, down the track guilt and regret will kick in. Could be days...
  4. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    That's not true. This is a very quick thread, talking like a chat right now, which may make it seem like some things are ignored, but if u go back through the thread I am sure u will see we talked about the possible innocence of the accused, and about various other things. Many ppl have also...
  5. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    agree. we are discussing scenarios, to try to make sense, to try to improve our understanding of the world (assume I can talk for a few others). we are not purporting this to be fact. earlier, we talked about how he could be innocent.
  6. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    This was talked about a little earlier. Someone pointed a clip out about laws in SA, and how DNA had to be on the database, or offered to b considered. Still don't know if this really took into account it could have been taken another way, like u suggest.
  7. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    I still believe a conscience can be developed, or destroyed by life, by society. The only exception I can see for this is the case of brain damange. And was he using his conscience, or being controlled by mood in this instance??
  8. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    I reckon his mum must of bought all his clothes, which he didn't like, so he just wore the same one he did like over and over.
  9. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    True, not all dangerous killers are loners, but to me, from the past life he hasn't shown that many features of a sociopath. This seemed like a single act in his life - noone has reported things like him lighting fires, killing animals, all that. And a boy's brain is not fully developed at 18 -...
  10. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    I stated earlier that just cause someone had a mental disorder, this would not necessarily mean they end up in psych ward, or get off. Mood disorders are characterised by extreme rage, anger, etcetera. I don't think he was a sociopath (anti-social personality disorder) because he had an...
  11. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    oh gawd, how bad can life b? I personally think family and friend dynamics has a lot to do with it - not causing him to commit this crime, allegedly, but in where he was mentally (e.g. self-esteem) and in terms of handling of situations. He obviously lacked appropriate strategies to handle...
  12. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    I think he thought about it for a while, but without intention of carrying through, just fantasizing. I think the party, and then maybe the "I love you D...." msg on fb were the final straw and sometime then he decided to carry through. I think you could b right about the rape too.
  13. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    I can't see that. The first reaction would be shock at the accusation, not anger.
  14. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    That;s why I wondered earlier if he did have a mental disorder - because when you do, with some of them, you feel numb, nothing, no remorse or fear or any feelings.
  15. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    By planned what I guess I also meant was thought about, desired to do it, got angry and brought a knife. When someone is so enraged they commit a "frenzied" crime (in police words), they can't think through logically every aspect so not to get caught, or as to why they shouldn't commit the...
  16. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    Different people react in diff ways. When fearful, I freeze and shake, can't move.
  17. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    If she had a knife held to her throat, and he was threatening her, then maybe not.
  18. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    But he prob took knife with him. Maybe he gave her a chance to change his mind.
  19. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    I think so too. I also wonder why other neighbours didn't respond either. Houses seemed close, including to houses at the back.
  20. K

    GUILTY Australia - Andrew, 45, Rose, 44, & Chantelle Rowe, 16, slain, Kapunda, 8 Nov 2010 #2

    and she was in bed, according to her fb. doubt that was false

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