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Does anyone know the situation in which they were found? On or by the trail? Sprawled all over the ground erratically, huddled together, all lined up in a row, etc...?? All clothes on or off, and what were they wearing? by the river, by a tree, using shelter, by a road, etc. etc...? Did they...

I don't understand why people are baffled at a motive for this case. Seems pretty obvious to me that the husband wanted to get rid of her so he wouldn't have to pay child support and share custody. And court-ordered child support is an unfortunate situation for everyone involved-- I mean, it's...

I'm so overjoyed to hear this!!!! Every time I looked at Mr. Allen's website over the years I would watch the milestones of their lives go by.. how he would write that she missed another birthday, or Christmas with her extended family, a family reunion, a Grandparent's 90th birthday, then a...

I never was one to believe in the 'impending police state' conspiracy thing, fueled by so-called 'liberal' politics/policies... But I am seriously becoming convinced now, after recent developments such as this case. It's horrifying.

Thank you Nova. I don't understand why it's such a shocker that there are some of us who are still trying to make sense of this strange case.. I still say there are many things that don't add up, and it's not ever really going to be a 'closed case'. Even it's true she just got stressed & went on...

Whether she had a medical issue that affected her mental state & judgment so badly it caused her to start guzzling booze, or if she was merely a Super Mom/ Closet drunk just doing her usual thing, it's still necessary (and natural) to want to understand exactly how this happened. Then perhaps...

zippity- it's not that she's any more 'worthy' than anyone else- it's just that it's a really weird case with a lot of things that don't add up. I for one don't believe if she had a medical reason, it would make what she did 'excusable'... it would just help people understand the chain of events...

I guess the other explanation is a total mental breakdown.. sometimes hardcore perfectionists, when they finally crack, they crack hard. It's all or nothing. The moment they realize they can't keep up the in-total-control perfectionist act, everything just crumbles in a big way.. & often leads...

..and let's keep in mind, even if a person might not have an official prescription for a certain pill, doesn't mean they don't have access to it.

Hi Nova, Well since it's so difficult to tell fact from fiction with this case, I'm not sure about the Ambien. I've read in some articles that she had a prescription for it, (however, is there proof- who knows? And the husband being all dodgy about everything doesn't help). But there were no...

SuziQ- are you talking about the 007 McDonald/ Korean airliner carrying the late Congressman Larry McDonald, that went missing in Asia?

montjoy- sorry, I didn't realize this was a closed case. Thanks for letting me know. nrdsb4- what you just said about the mini-strokes was my point exactly- that a mini-stroke may not be detected by a test/autopsy, and that may be what set off this chain of events.

HI HC, not sure of the details about the Ambien.. just reading bits & pieces from other forums, & it was mentioned several times. I also haven't seen the film, not sure if I want to...(??)

It's mind-boggling that this case is still so unresolved and it seems impossible to find any real answers as to what happened. My best guess is that she was feeling stressed for some reason, she was in pain (I think the tooth absess may be a clue here, or maybe she was feeling the symptoms of...

Trisha- This is exactly what I was thinking...! So that makes me think they just stayed in the spot where they perished. Maybe rowed a boat (now vanished?) to an island, or got lost and ended up on the island unintentionally.. probably got wet & cold along the way.. maybe they fell asleep trying...

I'm with the camp who believes this is just nothing more than drownings caused by intoxication. Alcohol poisons the brain and makes you do stupid things. It also makes you basically suicidal (i.e., do things that you know in your right mind could kill you or cause you harm).. and have poor...

Thanks Scarlett.. I guess I do remember reading he did get sentenced. Never heard anything about if the girl ever came to her senses or not. But what I'm wondering is, if he had to register as a sex offender for life, WHY is he not listed in any of the SO websites for California? (or any other...

Anyone seen any updates on this story..? It seems to have dropped off the radar completely. Did the sleazebag 'teacher' ever get sentenced or what...? I hope to see the day when that smug smirk is wiped off the girl's face too. She owes his family the world's biggest apology... although, I...

So the remains were ID'd, yet the story was just left open-ended.. no one seems to have any idea how they ended up in the water or what happened. The media just left it as a dead end. Anyone have any theories? It seems while being drunk/high after partying all night, they got some crazy...

I think you guys (who are suspicious there is some other suspicious sinister element to the story).. are forgetting the most obvious thing here... that alcohol causes people do make really, really, bad, stupid, decisions that don't make any sense to the rational mind. It doesn't matter how water...