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    Psychological Markers

    Well, according to these 2 links, seems like the latest body is fresh and it's a female who died a week ago, so who knows. We need more info on COD and MO, but seems strange to find a fresh body after all provoking...
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    Psychological Markers

    Just a thought. I live in Florida and from Easter on, people leave here to go back up North for the summer. It's possible he could be a Snowbird.
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    I wasn't thinking the scars and toenail polish was JT, I was thinking more along the lines of JD6, but dwntwnslim has now clarified it was neither - it was JD9098. The link you posted said a "source" said: "These are so old that roots were growing around the vertebrae and the skull,"...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    Originally Posted by Peter Brendt "Well, since you "spiced up" what I said with some of your own ingredients, it has now some lack of logic. I never said it would be necessarily preservation by freezing, I mentioned "preservation", freezing was only one possible example. So I ask you politely...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    If you just want to get rid of a body, I suppose you can "dump" it anywhere. If you've left no definitive evidence it wouldn't matter where you put it. You can put it in Hempstead Lake State Park or in front of the Dairy Queen and it wouldn't matter. If you're trying to permanently hide...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    Both Hempstead and Valley stream are very highly populated areas. Even if you might find some rural places inside the park, I doubt it would sustain a long-term dumping ground for a dozen bodies over a period of decades.
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    We have floated the idea of 2 serial killers around this forum for a while now and I think the major consensus is there are 2 killers. I read your post and I like your theory, but the problem with it is that Evan is currently in jail. (see link...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    When you leave the 5 boroughs and drive East, there are a few choices you have. You can take the Southern State Parkway, the Northern State Parkway or the LIE. Depending on where you want to go, one would be a better choice than the other 2. The Northern State and the Southern State end...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    I think people tend to make things more complicated than they are. If you were a serial killer and needed to dump a body, what would you do? People are much more likely to dump in places they know, because they can think about that place and actually visualize it (ie. the place where I used to...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    Found an urban example of body dumping in rows. Interactive map found here: http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-serialkillersmap-0804-i,0,515310.htmlstory
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    There is a bit of a resemblance in looks between the AC and GB killings, but there are a few differences in MO. Peter Brendt posted some good details about these differences a page or two ago. Some of them included a kind of religious positioning of the bodies East in the AC killings and their...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #9

    I saw today's episode also and I noticed that it changed from the last time I saw it - which had also changed from the first time I saw it. I guess they keep editing it as new info comes in. There were a few different little things, but being that this was 9 hours ago, I forget what they are...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #9

    Just reaching again, but if he was skimming 16K off the top of his checks, that could mean he was planning something about 2.5 years in advance. (around the same time he moved in with Patty?) Yes, $125 a week isn't a lot, but it's just enough to save a decent amount in 2.5 years and not...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    I'm not saying it's not possible for it to be 1 killer, just given what we know and the profiles of each of the different "areas," it just doesn't seem plausible for it to be 1 killer. The fact that they found remains in Manorville in 2003 and then the rest of the parts in 2011 lead me to...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    From my understanding, there are quite a few differences. For one, the Manorville SK started a lot earlier. If he was the same as the Gilgo Beach SK, he would probably be in his 50's by now. Not that it's not possible, but it's not as likely and it doesn't fit the "profile." Secondly, as...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    You don't purposely pick up a transvestite prostitute and then freak out. You "freak out" because you didn't know. It's a lot different for a male to prey on a woman than a male. You need a different thought process and a different plan. Since the MO on the Asian guy was different, the...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #9

    after reading the link on disappearing, it would seem that if you didn't want to live in the woods or live in the desert, you would need money to last you a while so that you could at least live in a place with running water. I'm thinking Ray's not the type to rough it up eating bugs in a...
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    Manorville Bodies: A Second Killer? Latest Remains found 02/17/2012

    Growing up in NY and spending some time on Fire Island, the nearby town of Cherry Grove is notorious for it's large homosexual population. It's quite plausible that the homosexuals who frequent the area (mainly in the summer) get to know some of the more rural areas on that stretch. It's quite...
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    PA PA - Ray Gricar, 59, Bellefonte, 15 April 2005 - #9

    I found this link about "how to disappear" on another websleuths post that I thought might be appropriate here; at the very least an interesting read. http://www.skeptictank.org/hs/vanish.htm Also, I wonder if they have found anything in their search so far of payoffs.

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