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  1. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    It’s been several years since our last adoption was final, maybe things have changed. Subsidy was hardly anything, perhaps since it’s gone way up they’ve changed SSI access. MOO We never applied for anything extra because I was of the mindset “these are MY children and we will provide!”. Many...
  2. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    I’m in WA state and all of our adoptions (except one) were here. I have heard of many people who get both and never heard it was illegal. I know they get partials from SSI.
  3. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    April 2019, and they may have called them by the new names before then. If they knew it was headed to adoption. MOO
  4. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    Except was all that info out there within 45 minutes of them going missing?
  5. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    I don’t know much about CA, but generally (and this goes for all states), before an adoption is final a “contract” is entered into between parents. The adoptive family could have offered monthly supervised visits OR just yearly updates OR nothing at all... it’s really up to the adoptive parents...
  6. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    Unless the state did something fraudulent during the adoption process (not unheard of), it’s not going to fly. Grandparents can sue for rights before the adoption is final, and probably had many opportunities to be involved. So I’m not sure where all of this is coming from, but an adoption is a...
  7. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020 #2

    This is so good to know ❤️ I have Irish “triplets”. A full sibling group of 3 we adopted, born within 2 years total. They adore eachother as teens!
  8. dillysmom11

    Recovered/Located China - Jack Ma, 56, Alibaba billionaire, Missing For Months, Emerges from crackdown, Jan 2021

    Do we need a police report to bring this over to missing discussion or is the MSM sufficient in this case (moderators)?
  9. dillysmom11

    Recovered/Located China - Jack Ma, 56, Alibaba billionaire, Missing For Months, Emerges from crackdown, Jan 2021

    I don’t think so. Perhaps with some “encouragement” from the Chinese government in the most painful of ways. This man didn’t just “take a break” for 3 months.
  10. dillysmom11

    Recovered/Located China - Jack Ma, 56, Alibaba billionaire, Missing For Months, Emerges from crackdown, Jan 2021

    Wondering if this can be placed here or in missing discussion? What the Saga of Jack Ma Says About China Under Xi Jinping
  11. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

    Likewise, if the open adoption agreement is not kept by biological parents (no updated address, missing visits, etc), then the agreement is null and void. Facebook made it extremely easy for us to find bios and them to find us... which sucks because it should be up to the children. That said...
  12. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

    It sounds like she did have lots of support. Where were they when she was losing the children...?
  13. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

    I will back almost any adoptive parent because it can be hell trying to help children with trauma heal while family/friends judge from the outside. However, wow this is so sketchy. I’m hoping that maaaaaybe the police and family are working quietly to get the children back from someone in the...
  14. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

    Right. Privately adopted children do not have medical or cash stipend. Four of our older children we adopted privately.
  15. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

    Was the only interview done on the day of disappearance? Playing devils advocate here, but the children hadn’t been missing long so they may have been worried but not terrified just yet. OTOH if my younger children are out of my sight for a few seconds I panic.
  16. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

    Cash assistance (adoption subsidy) is different per child.
  17. dillysmom11

    Still Missing CA - Orson & Orrin West (3&4), California City, 21 Dec 2020

    It would be interesting to know how much they received, and what part of California they moved from. If they were getting the full amount per child and then moved where housing is under $200k, that could be a windfall.

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