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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    Fair enough, I agree actually. Just trying to come up with ways she could have died.
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    If all her limbs were broken as per the Chinese media, is it possible she fell to her death off the maintenance house/building? Even onto the tank below (huge noise heard from 'maybe' 14th floor) and was hidden in panic by whoever was with her?
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    Personally I think the footage from the hallway outside of the elevator shows LE something more than they let on. They aren't showing it to the public as it will compromise the possibility of nailing the suspect. I think that since she was reported missing on the 1st, people who checked...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    I'm going to agree with both you bobmeier on this one and say MOST 21 year old girls have an obsession with Ryan. Unless this is all some well-planned suicide mission, unlikely connection.:twocents:
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    It seems as if some the security equipment is pretty new (relying on other accounts) I believe the guest wasn't interviewed because: a) they were no longer at the hotel when the body was found and b) they checked in on Feb 1 and I believe that LE knows the time frame of this quite well, if...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    Are we allowed to post links to reddit? Apologies if not... Here's a discussion between people who were staying at the hotel at the time of the 'murder'. http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/196hdc/i_was_in_the_cecil_hotel_the_day_they_found_elisa/ Somewhat unverified source but talks about...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    Hi all! I'm new to this thread but I've been lurking all the way through. I think her behaviour in the elevator seems pretty consistent with people who are new to being high. I think the toxicology reports will likely reveal something in her system. Is it possible that the ME could have...
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    GUILTY Australia - Jill Meagher, 29, Melbourne, 22 Sep 2012 #3

    I'd say that an alleged murderer having priors wouldn't shock anyone. But I also agree that the reaction may have been because she was a young, beautiful, ABC employee...
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    GUILTY Australia - Jill Meagher, 29, Melbourne, 22 Sep 2012 #2

    I feel almost guilty with how wrapped up in this I've been. It seems almost obscene. It's given me such a sick feeling ever since it began, and now it makes me so sick to know she obviously suffered. :(
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    GUILTY Australia - Jill Meagher, 29, Melbourne, 22 Sep 2012 #2

    Right. I thought this initially too. However, if it is a red hatchback in both cases... There's been so little in terms of the police addressing the public today, makes me feel as if they've got leads... hopefully something will break the case soon.
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    GUILTY Australia - Jill Meagher, 29, Melbourne, 22 Sep 2012 #2

    Could easily be a case of information that was reported and then stripped from the record because it was misreported, or wasn't supposed to be released to the public... :moo:
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    GUILTY Australia - Jill Meagher, 29, Melbourne, 22 Sep 2012 #2

    Was it definitely a red car that did the u-turn? Has this been stated somewhere? It was a red car in the "someone is following you" case in St. Kilda too. I know, lots of red cars, but still a possible link.
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    GUILTY Australia - Jill Meagher, 29, Melbourne, 22 Sep 2012 #2

    I can't believe that if she saw him turn the corner that she would have followed, given the obvious desolation of that street. And I feel like if she was worried, she would have been closely watching where he went before going on. I also find it strange that there is no one who came along...
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    GUILTY Australia - Jill Meagher, 29, Melbourne, 22 Sep 2012 #2

    Surely they can line up the time on the camera now, with the time on the network and figure out any discrepancies? It seems so odd that she would walk off towards him unless she thought he'd gone, or he had a gun. Can you see the corner from where they were? If he'd walked off ahead of her...
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    GUILTY Australia - Jill Meagher, 29, Melbourne, 22 Sep 2012 #2

    Hi All, New here, but a little shamefully obsessed with this case. Mostly because it strikes close to home (as it seems to for a lot of you). I'm around the same age as Jill and I live in a similar neighbourhood in Sydney, often walk home alone at night, and come across a whole host of slightly...

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