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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    Hey, what if the girl in the video was actually the killer or somebody involved in her death? She took EL's clothes and was actually gesturing something related to EL's death (someone mentioned some of the gestures looked like swimming).
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    She didn't dip down the second time because the buttons she meant to press were already lit and visible to her.
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    I don't see her as being playful either, but here's a smile: (From the body language analysis guy http://www.bodylanguagesuccess.com/2013/02/nonverbal-communication-analysis-2313.html) It looks like a wave, but it's weird how her hand is bent back so much. It looks less like a wave...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    No, look at her face and eyes as she turned to the right during the gesturing sequence. She's looking INSIDE the elevator. Not completely inside, but sort of towards where the buttons panel is. If she was talking to somebody, she would have looked directly in their direction even if she was...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    I used the instructions here: How to CHANGE PLAYBACK SPEED on YouTube - YouTube to watch the video at 1.5X. This actually makes the video a bit faster than real time (4/3 / 1.5 = 8/9 < 1).
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    If she was alive in the tank for a couple days, some urine or excrement might have been released. I wonder if they found any actual fecal content in the tank (ie, not just testing the water downstairs).
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    You're right! I just timed it and 60 "seconds" in the video took about 1m20s in real time. This may be significant! I had the impression that she was NOT worried or panicking, but maybe this will look a lot different if the video was sped up to real time. Does anyone have video editing...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    If a person is dies and is placed on some solid surface (ie, not floating in water), would the blood pooling or any bruising be characteristically different from if the person had been in the water while they died or soon after they died? I am inclined to think that if the body was stored on...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    Actually, I can think of at least a couple of sickos who did more than that. That is, assuming that eating something is "more than" showering oneself with something...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #3

    I pored through much of the nouvelle-nouveau tumblr and it really saddened me. It saddens me because I have a friend who I believe has similar issues (though not as serious) and I really don't know what we can as friends, family members, fellow members of society do to help people who have...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    I'm afraid I have another outside-the-box idea. What if she thought that she was entering some code in the elevator? For example, could be a door code: Amazon.com: Averen Radio Frequency Touchpad Deadbolt Entry Door Lock (Satin Nickel Finish): Home...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    OK, just an outside-the-box thought here. In the tumbler entry talking about the new guy she was interested in: http://nouvelle-nouveau.tumblr.com/post/40549046425/more-so-theres-a-guy-im-interested-in-but She mentioned the that he plays L4D as part of what makes him "very very very right"...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    Not sure if you're thinking that her hand movements looked like piano playing at one point... but I don't think so. Especially not if she knows how to play piano.
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    Yes, I believe that she pressed Down to call the elevator, and many elevators would not allow one to press a floor that's not in the direction they are supposed to go. (ie, she'd be able to press a higher floor only if she had pushed the Up button when she was outside the elevators.) If this is...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    A couple of points. The first point relates to whether the watertank lid would have been open or close. Suppose EL was already in the tank the first time the police went up top. I think they would have checked the top of the elevator utility room thing. Would it have been reasonable for them...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    NTG86, I read your post and it sent chills up and down my spine. You're right, I do see "friend". I wonder if there is something that looks like a security camera in the general direction that she was facing in the hallway. She could have been trying to sign for help to security. But perhaps...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    Wanted to add some comments regarding the Elevator video, the hand gesturing part. I do think she's having some sort of episode. Her attention did not seem to be directed at a single physical location. - first she looked at the wall across from the elevators (the mirror?) - then she turned...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    I don't usually use IE, so I don't know if there are differences between versions. I have IE 9 and this seems to work: Internet Options > General tab > Accessibility > Ignore colors specified on webpages Hope this helps! (Oops, just noticed another solution from flexiblehawk. Highlighting...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #2

    I hope I'm not violating any rules by referring to a certain tumblr page that might or might not have been Elisa's. (See Thread 1.) You can make that page much more readable by setting your browser to not let webpages choose their own colors. You can definitely do that with Firefox. The...
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    CA/Canada - Elisa Lam - 21 years old - Los Angeles/Vancouver - 31-Jan-2013 - #1

    Thanks, silybilly! So there are definitely 3 sets of fire escape ladders leading up to the roof. Of course we've already established that it's not that hard to get to the roof. People have pointed out graffiti, and there's the video a few posts up of the guy walking on the beam between...

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