impatientredhead
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I just don't get how the whole thing turned into gun laws and stand your ground if Trayvon was not at zimmerman's house trying to get in. There hasn't been anything said about Trayvon doing a thing that was really suspicious and the DA did charge GZ. I don't even know how it could be called a fight if he was after and trying to apprehend and hold Trayvon. For all Trayvon knew he could have been another Dahmer or Gacy and was just trying to get away. It makes no sense that TM would have been the aggressor unless hands were put on him and he was fighting to get away. Just my IMO, but I'd bet that a gun was pointed at him pretty much right away. From some things I've read about GZ, he may have been a ticking timebomb and obsessed with his neighborhood and crime. Possibly control issues as well.
It is a stand your ground issue because in the state of Florida SYG is not limited to your place of residence. It is and has been applied in many situations in public areas, and there have been ones linked here where the shooter/live one followed the shootee/dead guy/victim depending on your point of view to the victims personal property. The victim was shot in the head twice after a scuffle occurred. The judge in Florida said even though the shooter went and got his gun, followed the would be victim, went into the private yard of someone he didn't know and found himself on the losing end of a fist fight he initiated..... all those things duly noted and considered, SYG did not require any attempt at flight and did not exclude people who intentionally put themselves in a volatile situation or had otherwise acted recklessly leading up to the shooting.
The way the judges keep handing down the rulings that the only thing they weigh is what happened fifteen to sixty seconds before lethal force is used, there are many many cases where SYG would apply just as much to the other party if they had managed to kill before being killed. SYG would apply to TM just as much if he had killed GZ, he was in reasonable fear for his life. The case I mentioned above, had the pursuer in that case ended up dead after showing up in that guys driveway with a confrontation and a gun, SYG would protect both of them.
And that by an operating definition makes the law utterly ridiculous. Nothing but the old west mentality when you tell your citizens that in a confrontation they better be the one that kills first, cause the guy you are fighting with is thinking the same thing.