2008.07.28 Lee A. Interview

[tfrohning]

I would like to know what Lee been doing. He has not been in the news lately.

 

[s1rebecca]

Back to the begging of the interview. CA burst in room and says "what have you done?" Then CA plants the seed and asks the question "who took her?" KC never said anyone took her before she asked the question, she just said she had not seen her. I think based on CA question, KC ran with the whole ZFG story.

 

[Busylady]

I dont find his interview trustworthy at all. Something isnt right about the entire thing. Bothers me big time that he had access to Caseys stuff and computer for several hours, and with the receipts he makes sure he covers by saying if any are missing it isnt my fault type thing.

 

[ajurk]

Back to the begging of the interview. CA burst in room and says "what have you done?" Then CA plants the seed and asks the question "who took her?" KC never said anyone took her before she asked the question, she just said she had not seen her. I think based on CA question, KC ran with the whole ZFG story.

LA even says that she got the date of the 9th from just following up on what CA said. i think that if that was the real conversation that CA was asking her leading questions which is where KC came up with her story...

 

[El Gato]

Really? I just saw tons and tons of Lee incriminating Casey. I mean short of coming right out and saying "my sister is guilty of murder" he basically spelled it out...

I think the whole family was incriminating Casey AT FIRST.

I just can't understand the sudden support for KC.

To me, this whole case revolves around the death odor in the trunk and the way the A team is spinning it. I also believe a huge part of the prosecution involves that trunk and her cell phone records. I really hope they nail her butt GOOD~

It is ALL very strange to me.

 

[Leila]

I found Lee's "uhms" annoying. After having had Cindy tell us ad nauseum that the smell in the car was from rotten pizza, it was surprising to hear Lee describe how overwhelming the smell really was. We've all seen the Anthony home, and Lee says if you were standing at the front door, you could smell that car parked in the garage. That's a pretty strong odor!

Some things that caught my attention...................

* Lee says Cindy left for work about 8:00am on June 16th, and that she didn't hear either Casey or Caylee that morning as she claims she did.

* There was an attempt to deliver the registered letter from the impound yard on July 11th. George and Cindy didn't find the notice on the front door about the registered letter as they normally use the garage door as opposed to the front door.

* The receipts for items Casey bought after June 15th don't include items for a small child, such as diapers, juice, etc.

* The gas cans were stolen on Friday, June 20th, and TL accompanied Casey, waiting in his car, while she got the gas cans.

 

[lisa0477]

I don't see where his interview is not honest. I feel like he put it all out there. He told things that does not help KC at all. He stated that he thinks the 9th was a seed planted by CA. Saying that KC heard her mom say that and she went from there.

This interview has proven to me what I have felt. She got backed in a corner and it wasn't until Lee tells her that the cops are going to want you to show them Caylee is okay, that she snapped. She was all of a sudden kidnapped. She had to do some fast thinking. Her story to the police wasn't even the same as the one she told Lee. It just kept getting bigger as lies do. I don't think, it happened at the Anthony's house. The smell in my opinion would not have lasted from the 5th of June until the 15th of July. After the car was towed she started deleting her myspace comments. Someone just posted that they believe CA planted the seed of the kidnapping to KC by her reactions. I believe without one single doubt in my mind that KC has completely made up things as she has went along. I said a long time ago as others have that she takes a little bit of truth that she knows and puts in a lie with it. I have not read the other interviews yet, but can't wait.

Can someone please explain to me what apt she was staking out? If it was ZG, then why did Lee say she wouldn't have driven Caylee around in that smell? Why would she stake the apt out, if Caylee was not missing? Get my question? I hope someone can explain that one to me. I don't know how many people could believe she is alive after reading Lee's interview. Off to read some more.

Leila~ him saying there were none of Caylee's clothes with KC and no purchases for her tells so much. This is just so dang sad.

 

[Busylady]

I took it as he meant the car would of smelled earlier in the day when she dropped Caylee off and she wouldnt of put Caylee through that, and then after Caylee wasnt there when she went to pick her up Casey sat in the car watching the apartment. At least thats how I took what he said.

I don't see where his interview is not honest. I feel like he put it all out there. He told things that does not help KC at all. He stated that he thinks the 9th was a seed planted by CA. Saying that KC heard her mom say that and she went from there.

This interview has proven to me what I have felt. She got backed in a corner and it wasn't until Lee tells her that the cops are going to want you to show them Caylee is okay, that she snapped. She was all of a sudden kidnapped. She had to do some fast thinking. Her story to the police wasn't even the same as the one she told Lee. It just kept getting bigger as lies do. I don't think, it happened at the Anthony's house. The smell in my opinion would not have lasted from the 5th of June until the 15th of July. After the car was towed she started deleting her myspace comments. Someone just posted that they believe CA planted the seed of the kidnapping to KC by her reactions. I believe without one single doubt in my mind that KC has completely made up things as she has went along. I said a long time ago as others have that she takes a little bit of truth that she knows and puts in a lie with it. I have not read the other interviews yet, but can't wait.

Can someone please explain to me what apt she was staking out? If it was ZG, then why did Lee say she wouldn't have driven Caylee around in that smell? Why would she stake the apt out, if Caylee was not missing? Get my question? I hope someone can explain that one to me. I don't know how many people could believe she is alive after reading Lee's interview. Off to read some more.

 

[Paladine]

Thanks to pattyg, for the links :blowkiss:

Boy, is this some fascinating reading, or what?

The following is simply my opinion...:crazy:

The convo between Lee and Casey in the bedroom, as reported by Lee, had me fixated. "Unfit mother"..."should have called the cops earlier"...

Psychologically, it is so interesting. I am in a relationship with a fellow who's alot like Cindy when it comes to child rearing, imho. I came into their lives when David was 17, borderline Goth, ecstasy and clubs, everything and anything he wanted. Boy, it was rough for 2 years, breaking the denial of the Father and trying to show him this kid was screaming for limits and that he better teach him consequences before the real world does, they are not as kind sometimes, and the comfort of limits, that feeling of safety. Slowly, things changed...but it takes the parent learning to bear discomfort in their children, in not allowing them to feel pain, the parent is cheating them out of some character building, possibly life saving, experiences. But, we also have to comfortable with our own pain, to allow our children theirs. Cindy, being the caretaker she is, happens to be a Nurse. These people are good people, caretakers, that is, but they need to stop killing those they love with "love".

Sorry for the rant...and thanks for puttin' up with me.

 

[El Gato]

Yeah Lee did act like he wanted to nail her at first. Now it seems it's all about the money to the whole family. It is very disturbing to me.

 

[nancy botwin]

In AL and AH's statements indicate that Casey was on the couch using her laptop at AL's apt when Cindy arrives to take her home. Presumably, Casey left her laptop where she was sitting. Then Lee arrives later that night to retrieve her things--
Lee Interview (pdf pg#54-5 and bulk doc pg#1478-9)
Casey's laptop is now sitting plugged-in at the kitchen counter, appears blue-screened and seems to have been data swiped. Did Casey attempt to scrub her hard drive the instant Cindy and AH arrived? Did Lee do something to the computer during the hour+ time he took to retrieve Casey's things? Did AL do something to the computer-- did Casey set him up to run the program for her? What do people think?

The computer issue really stood out for me. There's basically no way to truly clean a hard drive-- and even if the person was really super computer savvy and succeeded in removing a lot of data, experts will be able to tell when the terminal dump was initiated. Given the hours that passed between Casey leaving AL's apt and Lee returning for the computer, I think LE has to know who tried to clean it.

--
Perhaps related, perhaps not--
Does anyone feel like Lee could possibly be working with LE? I know people have very mixed feelings about Lee, but his official statements and initial audio with Casey indicate he sees through her lies and has little patience for them. He seems to have few qualms about supplying damning evidence against her. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I wonder if he's working on the inside? Does anyone think so?

 

[Paladine]

I think it all sounds contrived from the beginning. I am even more convinced than I was before that something happened June 15th in that house.

I am SO with you! :clap:

 

[Paladine]

personally myself, i think they are all whack jobs.

rofl!!

 

[catherineb]

Did you get the part where Baez has some receipts and they aren't all accounted for? JB was given the "original" receipts. Sounded almost like he kept them and didn't turn them all over to police - LA is helping the police there, against the attorney. I am bothered by this. Why does JB have evidence that he isn't sharing and how can that be allowed?

The whole interview was damming. LA referred to Caylee in the past tense throughout the whole thing - he knows she is dead.

 

[CitizenKim]

Here's a rapidly thrown together summary of the Lee interview. Pls excuse and/or let me know of any errors!

The doll found in the car was Caylee’s favorite baby doll (named mama) - that Cindy said Caylee wouldn’t have gone anywhere without- would have thrown a fit! Sooo SAD!

Link: http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0923/17540065.pdf
The interview took place about 2 weeks after all hell broke loose w/the phone call to 911 on 7/15. He was extremely cooperative –providing Law Enforcement (LE) w/his notes and timeline that he’d been putting together – trying to untangle what happened when Casey and Caylee had been MIA from the Anthony home since 6/15. He doesn’t live at home so all he knew was that Casey had been staying away from home for the past few weeks- which was unprecedented - for the first time ever. She had always lived at home and now she’d moved out w/Caylee and was not letting Cindy or anyone speak w/Caylee. He said she would give people the runaround and say she was asleep or at the nanny’s or she didn’t want to upset her etc.

But the interview starts the night of the 911 call- July 15, his dad calls and says I’m worried about your mom- pls go check on her. Lee gets there in 5mins and sees Casey’s car in garage and no one else– horrific smells fills the garage– he calls his mom who pulls up momentarily w/Casey- he can tell they’ve been fighting.

Cindy wants to see Caylee and threatens Casey w/calling the police about stolen money and the car (bc the car is in George and Cindy’s name). Casey is still being stubborn and says go ahead- refers to herself as a spiteful . Apparently Cindy called Casey that earlier bc Casey keeps bringing it up. So you’ve heard the call- Casey breaks down and says she’s missing and has been for 31 days . Its seems the confusion over the original missing date of June 9th was just an error (as I suspected) from Cindy being hysterical and exaggerating how long its been since she’s seen Caylee. Casey keeps hearing her repeat that date and everyone kind of assumes Cindy would know and that must be the right date.

It seems Casey may have actually thought that she could just say- she’s my child and she’s safe, I don’t have to show her to you! Because Lee said- play it out- when the cops get here they’re going to make you take us to Caylee just like mom would – and Casey gives him a horrified face! Mom’s first reaction when Casey finally admits she hasn’t seen Caylee for a month is “WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?” Oh, he’s never in his life heard of Zanny the nanny – SHOCKING huh?

When Amy brought Cindy to Tony’s apt to retrieve Casey that night- Cindy told Tony “I hope you’re rich, bc she will take all of your money and leave you high and dry.” Tony has no idea what’s going on at this point as Cindy just snatched Casey up and leaves. She’s already found the car and when she found it w/that smell she was TERRIFIED that Casey and/or Caylee were dead in the trunk- I think they didn’t have a key to the trunk? (not sure)

The police are called- all of that’s been widely reported so I’m skipping ahead as they go through his “investigation” notes. He went and picked up Casey’s stuff from Tony’s apt- says he’s certain its too neatly packed for Casey to have done it- thinks Tony packed it up bc Tony also took Amy’s checkbook out of the bag, has it on his dresser and had called and told Amy she could retrieve it. This is the first Tony learns of Caylee being missing—from Amy. God bless Amy! If she hadn’t busted Casey for stealing those checks and led Cindy to where Casey had been staying…. who know when we would have learned of Caylee’s disappearance??

Lee brings all of Casey’s stuff back from Tony’s and dumps her things out in front of the cops in the family room- Casey’s wallet has over $100 in it which Cindy pockets (Casey’s stolen way more than that from her). The cop was out of the room for a bit so its unclear if Cindy or George took anything else from the bag- but basically they find some of Cindy’s credit cards and lots of receipts. There was some type of ID- Lee saw the officer “snatch it” when it was discovered behind Casey’s driver’s license—that’s interesting- I wonder what that was all about!? Lee said Casey has stolen from him and has been known to steal from others. The UNDERSTATEMENT of the year. That’s like, the Bush administration, has been known to undermine the constitution!!! Sorry- political rant leak. Anyway…

Lee recounts what he’s been told about the gas cans- which is kind of suspicious bc it sounds like George did not actually go into the car on (what we think is) 7/24- when he said he retrieved those stolen gas cans—he may not have even been close enough to the car to smell anything bc Casey was trying to block him. Is that cover up I smell? I hope not. He says that George is meticulous w/the cars- used to work at family dealership, Anthony Auto, and he was known to detail the inside and out often- on everyone’s car. Casey was trying to blame the smell on squirrels that had climbed into her engine and died. That just makes me want to cry. ☹

Some girl named Heather apparently “vouched” for Casey working on a contract basis for Universal through Kodak/Colorvision but it sounds very suspicious. I recently read somewhere (blog) that people found out Casey was working for an escort service w/Universal in the name, but as far as I know its complete speculation!! (Though I must admit I’ve wondered about the escort or exotic dancer angle– maybe she was dancing the day shift at a club bc apparently you don’t make much money on the day shift- ((I recently read the Diablo Cody (Juno scriptwriter) book about stripping- that’s how I know)). And we do know she certainly wasn’t making much money bc she had to steal from everyone to fund her desperate search for her daughter—Caylee- are you here at Fusian? Apparently Casey thought – hmmm -Maybe this girl is like a genie in a bottle and if I rub her the right way- Caylee (and Zanny the nanny) will magically appear- GRRR!

Casey, I think, thought she’d wiped the hard drive- it was acting like it had a virus and Lee couldn’t get on at first. When he did log into her yahoo mail account- she’d erased EVERYTHING sent or received before July 15th- there was nothing there- no spam no nothing. Also, on July 4th Casey deleted a lot of myspace postings all the way back to April 24th. So, that’s a really brief and (sorry) scattered summary of the interview w/Lee Anthony. Things just look worse and worse. I will summarize the Tony interview later.

 

[JustJax]

Really? I just saw tons and tons of Lee incriminating Casey. I mean short of coming right out and saying "my sister is guilty of murder" he basically spelled it out...

I think in the beginning he was doing everything he could think of to get to the bottom of what happened to Caylee, no matter what cost.
He seemed to be doing his own investigation with the cell records and making contact with the various numbers.
But it seems as soon as JB entered the scene the family went into defence mode. His attitued since then has been very combative with the confrontation with the protestors. In the begining he seemed to be the only one with the cool head, but as of late he has been acting more like the rest of the A's.
I just wish one of them would step up and step away from the "protect Casey" mode.

 

[lisa0477]

In AL and AH's statements indicate that Casey was on the couch using her laptop at AL's apt when Cindy arrives to take her home. Presumably, Casey left her laptop where she was sitting. Then Lee arrives later that night to retrieve her things--
Lee Interview (pdf pg#54-5 and bulk doc pg#1478-9)
Casey's laptop is now sitting plugged-in at the kitchen counter, appears blue-screened and seems to have been data swiped. Did Casey attempt to scrub her hard drive the instant Cindy and AH arrived? Did Lee do something to the computer during the hour+ time he took to retrieve Casey's things? Did AL do something to the computer-- did Casey set him up to run the program for her? What do people think?

The computer issue really stood out for me. There's basically no way to truly clean a hard drive-- and even if the person was really super computer savvy and succeeded in removing a lot of data, experts will be able to tell when the terminal dump was initiated. Given the hours that passed between Casey leaving AL's apt and Lee returning for the computer, I think LE has to know who tried to clean it.

--
Perhaps related, perhaps not--
Does anyone feel like Lee could possibly be working with LE? I know people have very mixed feelings about Lee, but his official statements and initial audio with Casey indicate he sees through her lies and has little patience for them. He seems to have few qualms about supplying damning evidence against her. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I wonder if he's working on the inside? Does anyone think so?

I just read Tony's interview and was wondering the same. I get the same screen sometimes that Lee was talking about, I wonder if LE had a hard time when they turned it on. She really had no time to get to really know Tony, did she?

 

[redtailhawk]

Can someone please explain to me what apt she was staking out? If it was ZG, then why did Lee say she wouldn't have driven Caylee around in that smell? Why would she stake the apt out, if Caylee was not missing? Get my question? I hope someone can explain that one to me. I don't know how many people could believe she is alive after reading Lee's interview. Off to read some more.

I found this confusing too. I took it to mean that she had told him she had staked out the Sawgrass Apts perhaps...where she left Caylee..on the stairs...with Zanaida????? As to driving around with Caylee and the smell....could he have still had some idea that the squirril was still involved??

 

[Pink Panther]

Well, I've skimmed the whole document so I will have to come back and re-read but my general take on LA's interview is that its pretty damning! Notwithstanding that, he totally fails to mention having tried to reach Casey on July 3rd and several others that have been interviewed do mention that he contacted her on the 3rd...Interesting...So much to go through again.

P.S. Lights are on at the Anthony residence. Really. Check out the cam.

 

[professoressa]

I have to go back and look, but does anyone recall AL stating that LA came back for Casey's belongings? I can't seem to remember this....

Overall...I was a little bit disappointed with these interviews. I didn't have the same feeling of "A-ha" moments as reading the first batch...I guess because a lot of this is old news to WSers...