2010.03.02 Teresa N-Suspicious Behavior

[TobyWong*]

To my kge, she hasn't even been insinuated as a POI. What she gives to the case is, perhaps, kge of a crime happening before she was called at 3:34am. Depending how soon she was called would give reason to believe that rc, mc or someone else called her before 911.

Wel heard her say early on that she sent her "family member" over to check on the kids. Why didn't she go? Why was GMA the one to do the children's laundry and care for the kids? Why did rc and mc go live with GMA after the crime? Why have we never heard of them staying with tn?
These are reasonable questions, imo. If she was called after the 911 and lived in PP then there is no problem. However her arrival within minutes and her legal residence speaks of suspicion and it is justifiable. If LE woud clear rc and she really did arrive at the crime scene in the speed of light then, there will be no more questions. Until then, she is on radar as knowing something before 3:34am.

BBM
I think tn acts vague and shady. And in everything she says has a different meaning than what we would think. Like the vague "i sent a family member to check on the kids" k well this is the life of her granddaughter and she's being vague.? It was her mother and possibly her sister (correct me if i'm wrong). Her arrival in the sherrif dept sweater is to much. To thought out. Her shadiness as to her actual living residence. Why? MOO is that she gave up her children cause she did not/could not care for them, which is a good thing if you truly cant but imo can't & don't want to are very different. I think her life style then as now was not good for children/or grandchildren. So what is it? I feel that ggms has HAD to step in and care for the children that no one else is taking care of. And if tn has a life style that she wanted hidden before all this, she sure would'nt invite ron & misty there w/ the whole scrutiny of the world following.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I wonder if Ron even had his OWN phone that night? Wonder if he left it with TN or Misty. I am sorry, but, I can't see an employee calling somewhere 90 times without no one noticing how preoccupied he was with his cell phone that evening. Also, IF Ron got a call at work about his missing daughter IMO, the other employees would have heard about it, as Ron has an explosive temper. IMO, he also woudl have left work like a bat out of hell. I am not saying I do not think he is involved somehow, but, I don't think he had his own cell phone that evening. Whoever set this whole thing up was,perhaps, smart enough to know that calls can be traced.

I am going to assume he did have his phone for several reasons. If I am not mistaken Teresa has Ron on her plan, I looked it up months ago. LE has 20-90 calls that Ron made from his phone, reported on Art's site. It was also reported that Ron and Misty had a fight over the phone that night around 8:30PM and Misty turned her phone off after that. Ron also called Tommy that night, it was reported that was true on Art's site. While Misty was on the phone with 911 you could hear Ron in the back ground, where is my phone I got better people to talk to. Misty had said she had ran to the room to get "HER" cell phone to call Ron, he claims he missed the call because he had just pulled into the drive way. TN also said that Ron called her during/after the 911 call. Also, in the police Report Ron and Misty list the same number, the number on TN's phone plan. So, yes IMO Ron had his "OWN" phone.

 

[SoSueMe]

Not too many facts in almost seventeen months. Onlly verifiable fact we have is hank getting in a wreck on Feb 7th. Everything else is contadicted or a lie. Heck, we don't even know the addy of Chelsea and Timmy and where the van was located the night of Feb 9, 2009...and that is a big piece of the puzzle.

We have nothing of any accuracy on Feb 9th. From the early morning hours of Feb 9th to early morning hours of Feb 10th, we have been led astray on every waking minute. TN has been the one who has reported most of the facts of that day and they have all been contradicted. I don't know why she was the one telling the story when she wasn't even there. NG had her on TV and she spoke and that is how all of our information about the case in the beginning has been derived.

TN told us:
Ron and misty stayed up all night talking....
There was a fight about a gun
The cousin is possibly a predator
ron picked up Haliegh
she sent her "family member" over to check on the kids, later added laundry was reason.
Misty was home.
Misty was exhausted from talking all night
TN thinks rc called her during the 911, but not sure.

And all the things she told us seem to be the heart of the case or at the least are what we have been discussing from day one.

In 15 months, the only thing I'm sure of in this is case is that there was a 911 call made in the wee morning hours of 02/09/09, to report a missing child. And that's all I know.

 

[suspicious1]

Maybe she slept with it on, I have before. Like maybe a pendant or something that is sentimental to her. Please stop this bashing of TN. If she were involved wouldn't the qualified detectives have figured that out. I think they haven't pointed to her as POI because she isn't.

Are you referring to me??? I don't call it bashing...I call it pointing out her suspicious behavior....That is the title of the thread, isn't it????

I must be in the wrong thread.. LOL:sothere:

 

[doobiedoo52]

Thanks Ginger snap...I already have knowledge of the report...I am just puzzled WHO was last seen at a residence 1 1/2 hour before....Everytime I read someone posting this statement, it makes me think...OH!! THEY know who was last seen ...as the report, correct me if I am wrong, DOES NOT say WHO they are talking about that was last seen, as I thought maybe you knew WHO it was and I had missed that info somewhere.....Thanks for your effort to explain it...This case has all of us puzzled..

JMO but it looks to me like 1256 was not answering the dispatcher until after she had been to Tyler. You hear the dispatcher asking for 1256 and saying she has a phone call. At that point 1256 had already been to Green Lane because she says "going back to Green Lane". The dispatcher knows 1256 was at Green Lane and wants more information to relay to other officers--she is the one who asks for verification of when the missing person was last seen. 1256 then answers 'last seen at her residence and hour to an hour and a half ago.'

 

[grandmaj]

Knock it off. This is not how we debate opposing points of view. Get back on topic and stop the snark, This is not directed to any one post. There have been plenty in the last 24 hours.

This is the last warning.

 

[Justin Tyme]

My first ex was a Correctional Officer at FSP. While off duty he was not allowed to wear his uniform after work hours. You wear it to and from work and of course while you're at work. You don't wear it on your days off or while on a leave of absence from work. The jacket is considered a part of the uniform.

*Can someone remind us of why TN was out of work.
*Was she still considered employed with a leave of absence?
*Is she still considered an employee?
*Does anyone know how long she was employed there?
*What was her length of employment?

 

[seeking truth]

The check had to be written in Lake County because that is who prosecuted. I do not know if tn or jh shared an account. I believe they always rented. There was no information about check or amount. I will look again.

I appreciate you response, Whisperer. I was wondering if this tied in with HaLeigh somehow. Maybe using an account that was low or not active, Grandma Teresa buying something to do with the injury/death of her grand-daughter and trying, in advance, to hide the fact.

Just an opinion and just speculation.

 

[Whisperer]

I do not know her circumstances surrounding her employment at ACSO. TN was in a car accident in 2007/08 (will research for date) in Lake/Alachua County and had not returned to work as she had sustained a back injury. All her Drs and lawyers are listed as from that area which gives credence as to her residence there. The case was settled in January 2010.

It was rumored that her length employment was brief. I have not heard anything regarding her job status.

 

[seeking truth]

Maybe she slept with it on, I have before. Like maybe a pendant or something that is sentimental to her. Please stop this bashing of TN. If she were involved wouldn't the qualified detectives have figured that out. I think they haven't pointed to her as POI because she isn't.

CathyinTexas,

We have no idea if LE has had, and still has, Ms Neves in their radar. (Jeff Hardy purposely did not name the persons of interest, he just let the public know there were several). Just with what we have had to observe of this woman, from the very beginning, there are many reasons to suspect her of having knowledge of the crime and it's cover-up. Her changing stories do not help. (One example: Ron had a fight over a gun with JO was changed to No, there wasn't a fight over a gun with JO. This change in story came about after Mr. Ron Cummings attempted to discredit Misty and Teresa in this instance).

It is sad to see, that when adults are discussing the actions of people in this case, it becomes "bashing" when the opinions and thoughts of some are not agreed with. We all have out thoughts and pretty darn strong feelings on this very sad situation.

It is such a relief to find this place where respect reigns, despite very different ideas concerning those who surrounded HaLeigh, what may have happened to her, and who did it.

My OPINION

 

[Marinemom]

Because of the rate in which we hear news of parents, step-parents, grandparents, etc. beating, selling a child in exchange for drugs, and yes, even killing a child/grandchild, no one can be deemed exempt simply because they are biologically related to a missing (suspected dead) child.
MOO~

While that may be true, it certainly is sad.

If a tiny child can't count on mommy or daddy, or grandma or grandpa to stick up for them and protect them - who CAN they count on??? soooo sad.

 

[Marinemom]

There an interview with NG with Ronald and TN.

TN was describing the event of GGS and the laundry.
She used the words CAME over with laundry. Meaning to me, she was there at the time, otherwise she would have said GGS WENT there with the laundry.
IMO, TN was the babysitter that night NOT Misty. I think Misty showed up (when the neighbours heard the vehicle outside)or was called in about 2:00am (around the time the neighbour heard screams)

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! I had NEVER even considered TN as a suspect in poor Haleighs disappearance. (maybe because I'm also a gramma, and I can't imagine doing something bad like that to my own grandbabies then being able to face my own kids afterwards!)

 

[Marinemom]

Thanks Ginger snap...I already have knowledge of the report...I am just puzzled WHO was last seen at a residence 1 1/2 hour before....Everytime I read someone posting this statement, it makes me think...OH!! THEY know who was last seen ...as the report, correct me if I am wrong, DOES NOT say WHO they are talking about that was last seen, as I thought maybe you knew WHO it was and I had missed that info somewhere.....Thanks for your effort to explain it...This case has all of us puzzled..

When they kept saying 'she was last seen......' I was under the continuous assumption they were talking of the missing girl - Haleigh. Right?? At that time, who else would they have been looking for - with little Haleigh missing, I would assume SHE would be their main focus.

 

[Marinemom]

I do not know her circumstances surrounding her employment at ACSO. TN was in a car accident in 2007/08 (will research for date) in Lake/Alachua County and had not returned to work as she had sustained a back injury. All her Drs and lawyers are listed as from that area which gives credence as to her residence there. The case was settled in January 2010.

It was rumored that her length employment was brief. I have not heard anything regarding her job status.

I did not know of TN being in an auto accident and sustain a back injury. Hmmmm......that might explain how 'she knows' that Oxycontin is a 'bitter nasty tasting pill'. Maybe she takes them for her pain.
(some here had suggested that maybe she tried to give some to Haleigh and she wouldn't take them because they taste bad, and wondered how she knew they taste bad)


I still CAN NOT jump on the bandwagon that TN had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance. sorry....

 

[Emeralgem]

I did not know of TN being in an auto accident and sustain a back injury. Hmmmm......that might explain how 'she knows' that Oxycontin is a 'bitter nasty tasting pill'. Maybe she takes them for her pain.
(some here had suggested that maybe she tried to give some to Haleigh and she wouldn't take them because they taste bad, and wondered how she knew they taste bad)


I still CAN NOT jump on the bandwagon that TN had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance. sorry....

And from all the underhanded manipulative tactics she has pulled concerning this case I can't jump off the bandwagon thinking she is not involved up to her eyeballs..JMO

Edit.. Let me add..I don't have a clue as to what pain meds she is on or has ever been on but IMHO her back injuries can't be that serious.. I've seen her high stepping in an out of the woods and seen her walking around sportin those high heel boots too...

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

And from all the underhanded manipulative tactics she has pulled concerning this case I can't jump off the bandwagon thinking she is not involved up to her eyeballs..JMO

I'm convinced that TN is definitely involved in some way - perhaps not in harming HaLeigh, but certainly in the cover-up that she has orchestrated to protect her son. I believe that TN was in the vicinity of the mh during the evening prior to HaLeigh's mysterious disappearance. Her "prompt" arrival on the scene in the wee hours is too suspect for her to have been far away. jmo

 

[Emeralgem]

I'm convinced that TN is definitely involved in some way - perhaps not in harming HaLeigh, but certainly in the cover-up that she has orchestrated to protect her son. I believe that TN was in the vicinity of the mh during the evening prior to HaLeigh's mysterious disappearance. Her "prompt" arrival on the scene in the wee hours is too suspect for her to have been far away. jmo

Seriously, I have never entertained the thought she is the one who hurt Haleigh, however IMHO she deserves to be tried, convicted and sentenced to as harsh a punishment as her son who IMHO is responsible for hurting Haleigh..
IMHO.. Her manipulative underhanded tactics have helped derail this investigation just as much as any of the lies that have been told by any of the Croslins..JMO

 

[Marinemom]

Seriously, I have never entertained the thought she is the one who hurt Haleigh, however IMHO she deserves to be tried, convicted and sentenced to as harsh a punishment as her son who IMHO is responsible for hurting Haleigh..
IMHO.. Her manipulative underhanded tactics have helped derail this investigation just as much as any of the lies that have been told by any of the Croslins..JMO

Since I am not apparently as up on this case as I had first thought I might be, could you link me to where it has been proven she committed these manipulative underhanded tactics you speak of?

I'm not questioning whether or not she has or hasn't, I just haven't been made aware of such a thing. Actually, all I really knew of this case was learned on NG, so I guess I don't know much about it. Could you enlighten me about these underhanded tactics she used to derail this investigation?

 

[lonetraveler]

A lot has been made of Teresa bringing a picture. That was quick thinking. She probably had that picture displayed nearby and grabbed it on the way out to make sure LE and the news had a pic of Haleigh to help find her! I can't believe how many of you here believe TN had something to do with Haleigh's demise.

There are many of us who believe that Teresa Neves participated in a cover up to protect Ron Cummings. As pointed out in the Haleigh thread and this thread in particular, there are many suspicious things, items or events that point to her being involved in a clean up. That is why this thread exists, ie., to discuss these very things. No one has been cleared in this case. LE have stated that several are involved. Right now, one of those several could include Teresa Neves. I don't think she is being bashed, just looked at very diligently.

 

[TrialAddict]

TN and the call begging, Misty to babysit that night has bugged me for a long time. When did she make this call, where were the children when she called, Misty? Misty said she had to ask, Ron. Was the call made before Ron went to work? I have many more questions about that call.