2010.03.19 Indigent Status Granted

[darnudes]

I don't think you can ever place ethics aside. Meanwhile there is the reality is that there is a death penalty and that the costs are a given, not a drama.

I agree, I don't ethics should be put aside either.

As most people here know I am vehemently against the death penalty. I was trying to be sensitive to the posters that do believe in it by not provoking them and thereby derailing this thread into a heated debate - for or against the death penalty.

We have threads on those already and they usually end up with neither side giving an inch.

 

[TrialAddict]

sleutherontheside Thank you that is what I was trying to say in my post a few pages back

 

[cyberborg]

Well, then, there you have your answer - it lies at the feet of the people of Florida.

As I said if anyone is going to support the death penalty they then can't complain about the cost of a death penalty trial unless they would be comfortable with only poor people not being able to mount a defense.

Which leads us back to the fact that the poor tax payer is going to fund it in any case.

I completely agree re missing monies- I think we would all like to see the accounting.

BBM. Wonder if there was an accomodation of the A's (CA/GA) and some split between the Defense and A family? It seems interesting that DC had an expectation of $90K and the money flow definitely got cut off at some point.

 

[notthatsmart]

This whole indigent thing is based on the death penalty. The State made their choice and now they have to live with it. I do not believe in the death penalty just based on 2 wrongs do not make a right. I can also see many other reasons now that the death penalty does not work. I have never voiced my opinion against the death penalty, out of respect for the victims families and their right to piece of mind. However in this case, the victims family are against the death penalty. So there fore I am voiceing my opinion. In my opinion, in this case, it is wrong to seek the death penalty against Kc.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

The ABC / Disney statement that was made said the money was for relativeS. I'm betting the A's got about 100K - half. Per JB's accounting, there was like $165k not accounted for.

Well, if you take $100k off that went to the A's - then we're down to $65k - Dr. Lee, I'll bet took a chunk, and then there was Reichs (which she has said she ain't talkin').

JB didn't want the fact that the A's got half of that deal out in the public - hence all the in camera requests. I still think he's in trouble because ABC / Disney said HE (and they specifically said his name) brokered the deal for the relativeS. Not good. But, we shall see.

curiouser and curiouser

 

[logicalgirl]

BBM: YES! I can't believe this issue isn't being pressed further.:banghead:

I'm really impressed with all the "what I consider to be really intelligent" comments and have been behind while looking after an urgent family matter.

I sure understand the indignation re Baez and his magical mystery billing, however the only string loose in all of this methinks is:

Isn't Casey the one who needs to be unhappy with the handling of her defense funds? Really you can hire someone to fix your teeth, and pay a truckload of money and if you think you've been cheated you can go to the courts and file a complaint, and also to the professional dental board ( there must be such a thing).

But since Casey is judged mentally competent (geez), then as long as Jose is billing for billable items - sorry don't know the technical legal terms - then I guess he can charge what he likes - right? So really what can JS do if Casey is smiling and nodding and gleefully rubbing her hands together and not objecting to what the heck he's done with her money. It's not like she will ever get her hands on it.

Comments, anybody please?

 

[MD MOMMY]

The ABC / Disney statement that was made said the money was for relativeS. I'm betting the A's got about 100K - half. Per JB's accounting, there was like $165k not accounted for.

Well, if you take $100k off that went to the A's - then we're down to $65k - Dr. Lee, I'll bet took a chunk, and then there was Reichs (which she has said she ain't talkin').

JB didn't want the fact that the A's got half of that deal out in the public - hence all the in camera requests. I still think he's in trouble because ABC / Disney said HE (and they specifically said his name) brokered the deal for the relativeS. Not good. But, we shall see.

curiouser and curiouser

Didn't HL say he was working pro bono though? I think I remember that. AND if the A's got 1/2 the money, would they be in foreclosure? IIRC their mortgage is around $700 per month and their mortgage total is around $100K or less. IDK that doens't sound right to me but then again what does in this case?

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Didn't HL say he was working pro bono though? I think I remember that. AND if the A's got 1/2 the money, would they be in foreclosure? IIRC their mortgage is around $700 per month and their mortgage total is around $100K or less. IDK that doens't sound right to me but then again what does in this case?

yea. but if ya think about it - I don't remember, but I don't think BC is working for them pro bono. Then there is all the *ahem* things we've noticed. The cruise, the tatoos, Cindy seemed to have had a "little work done". Nobody is working - yet all the bills, now we know they weren't paying the mortgage - but you HAVE TO PAY the electric, water, internet or you loose them. Gas, food, stuff. I'm sure they blew through that - with the biggest chunk going to BC. Just amazes me that CA didn't have the forethought to pay that mortgage ahead or even wayyyyyyyyyy down.

We don't know what BC is billing them. And, maybe they had talked about it and decided to just let it (the house) go. A lot, a lot of people are doing that now. I know I wouldn't wanted to have kept living in that house.

But, yea I think the A's got half. JMO of course.

 

[logicalgirl]

It just seems to me that there should be tighter stipulations regarding being "indigent". She shouldn't be able to have a team located all around the country traveling to and fro as they please. Same with experts. She can't afford it? She should have to take what she can get. If they come back later and say they want to appeal because she wasn't allowed to use these uber-expensive lawyers and experts? Ummm, you didn't have the MONEY for them.

Didn't the JAC say no out of state experts and no out of state travel for lawyers also? I don't see them paying high priced experts, they will pay the standard rate and I guess if the experts will accept that, then there won't be a problem.

 

[snupy]

I feel bad because my sister is going to be paying her tax dollars to defend Inmate Anthony. I really do hope there is still fallout from yesterday. Hey IRS, were you paying attention? I wish I knew how to send them an email...

This just sucks. Once again they get to make a circus of his case and get their way...waiting for justice for Caylee is becoming harder and harder!

If you suspect or know of an individual or company that is not complying with the tax laws, you may report this activity by completing Form 3949-A. You may fill out Form 3949-A online, print it and mail it to:

Internal Revenue Service
Fresno, CA 93888

www.irs.gov

 

[okiedokietoo]

Defendents are innocent until proven guilty, that is constitution I believe. So the defendent can sell all the pics they want. You can write your state all you want, its not going to change.

The state bar is prolly getting sick of investigating Jb. If the Judge said the disclosure was good enough, that is prolly good enough for the bar.

They did not know Caylee was dead and no one can prove that,They did not tamper with evidence either. That is all just speculation.

No one is stopping anyone from writing to their congressman and asking him to sign something to give up our rights. Yes thats right, Kc's rights are all of our rights. IMO

(above bolded by me)

http://www.wftv.com/news/18159143/detail.html
Posted: 10:31 am EST November 27,2008 Updated: 9:32 am EST November 28,2008
George Refuses To Give Up Hope That Caylee Is Alive
"Also released Wednesday, investigators say Casey's slacks, which her mother removed from the car and washed because they reeked of the same odor inside the car, were apparently the same slacks Casey was wearing on the day Caylee disappeared and is believed to have been murdered. Investigators did not ask for those slacks early on because they had already been laundered at least once."

EMAIL COULD LAND CINDY IN TROUBLE (same page)
Then Tuesday, a controversial email surfaced. It appears that the Anthonys' former spokesman, Larry Garrison, says he confronted Cindy by email about why she gave Casey's hairbrush, instead of Caylee's hairbrush, to investigators who wanted a DNA sample.
Garrison said Cindy's emailed response was: "I never lied. I just never went to my bathroom to get the hairbrush that I used only for Caylee."

(above quoted from article)

I'm not going to mince words here about if she didn't say it then it wasn't a lie etc - her wording isn't the least bit cute -
IMO that was a big huge really big 'o ...ok, mistruth---And back to the topic of the thread"
JB saying there isn't a book deal, isn't cute, isn't pulling one over anybody if there is just talk about a book deal, if anyone is just negotiating right now - still is not the truth

 

[beach]

Didn't HL say he was working pro bono though? I think I remember that.

So much drama was happening so fast at that hearing, I don't recall for sure. According to Cheney Mason though, they could've just sent him a crate of oranges.

 

[bogeygal]

This whole indigent thing is based on the death penalty. The State made their choice and now they have to live with it. I do not believe in the death penalty just based on 2 wrongs do not make a right. I can also see many other reasons now that the death penalty does not work. I have never voiced my opinion against the death penalty, out of respect for the victims families and their right to piece of mind. However in this case, the victims family are against the death penalty. So there fore I am voiceing my opinion. In my opinion, in this case, it is wrong to seek the death penalty against Kc.

The prosecution filed this motion for the death penalty because of additional information on the Case against Casey.

Here is the motion:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/images/04/13/intent.seek.death.pdf

 

[christee]

I agree what about everyone else who gets a public defender,I would be screaming I didnt get HIGH priced lawyers why KC did.I understand she needs a dp lawyer but they must have at least 1 in FL. Why does she get to keep the best(JB EXCLUDED FROM BEST)not fair to others who are in jail and the other murders.

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Either Wednesday or Thursday, on HLN I believe, A Death Penalty Lawyer was talking abt KCs case...Imagine my surprise when I heard he was Tony L's lawyer. I wish I could remember the guy's name...

 

[Bobbisangel]

I just have one ? what could Baez possibly have spent the $270,000 on?
Bogus motions,lunches and Casey's new clothes, Birthday cake. Just asking

I wonder if he just had to write down a list of what the money was spent on and how much each thing cost or did he have to have proof? If he didn't have to have proof then you know he lied his head off. He said one thing was travel! Where did he travel to? The worthless attorney hasn't done a thing on that case. NOTHING!

 

[kbl8201]

Poor little casey and her THREE LAWYERS......the state should not have to fit the bill for out of state lawyers who work pro bono on there own, and are not public defenders grrrrrrrrr

 

[beach]

I want to know when JS is going to release the findings PUBLICALLY! He made it crystal clear yesterday that it needed to be disclosed in OPEN COURT how the money had been spent to date. Well, lets see the accounting!

I sure hope I don't have to get po'd with JS now. I am sick of being po'd with people.

Sorry to quote myself, but for context -

Well, I guess I will be PO'd with JS, too now. le sigh

I posed this question to rhornsby and he answered me here (about half way down the page, in response to me - s/n 'beach') --

http://blog.richardhornsby.com/2010/03/this-made-me-laugh-oh-the-irony/



haven't been online much tonight, so you guys may already have this answer. just wanted to make sure

 

[Trapshooter]

Either Wednesday or Thursday, on HLN I believe, A Death Penalty Lawyer was talking abt KCs case...Imagine my surprise when I heard he was Tony L's lawyer. I wish I could remember the guy's name...

TL's lawyer is William Jay.

 

[Gypsy Road]

I wonder if he just had to write down a list of what the money was spent on and how much each thing cost or did he have to have proof? If he didn't have to have proof then you know he lied his head off. He said one thing was travel! Where did he travel to? The worthless attorney hasn't done a thing on that case. NOTHING!

The wrong thread to ask this question, but was it ever revealed how much was paid to the entertainment publist in TN? I can't remember his name. Also, who paid the family spokespeople - Garrison?

 

[kbl8201]

strickland talks big when the cameras are on and is a big ol sissy when they arent