2010.03.19 Indigent Status Granted

[TigerBalm]

Are you against the fair trial system? Why should she not have the same rights the state has? Dr Vass is from out of state, Dr Haskell is from out of state, Dr Brown is from out of state, FBI Quantico is from out of state. Her Lawyers are paying their own expenses. IMO

BBM

Correction, her attorneys are NOT paying their own expenses.

The motion was filed asking for costs.

The attorneys (besides Baez) might not be getting a paycheck, but they sure as heck are not going to be paying out of pocket for costs.
Well, unless they decide to go over the caps and rates of the Ninth Judicial Circuit that is.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/22891058/detail.html

 

[kbl8201]

well given that indigent status means your usually granted public defenders (instead of hot shot lawyers working pro bono for you) i dont think we'd get a proper defense jbean

 

[noonie]

I'm going to sign off for a while because if I say how I really feel I'm gonna get banned.


Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

You got that right!!!!!!!!!!!! Me too!!! ff to another atmosphere! I am gonna play my music. How Crazy this has become. :furious::sick:

 

[The World According]

Yes, Henry Lee said he was on this case pro bono.

 

[Pickles]

I do live in Florida,and I am outraged! I want to find a place to go to complain. I could start with Governer Crist. But the truth of the matter is this. If I want justice for Caylee then I want KC to receive a fair trial so that she cannot come back say that she had an unfair trial. I just can't believe JS approved this! GRRRRRR

 

[Pickles]

I would like that link please

 

[Macushla]

IF, at some point in the future, Ron and/or Misty are ever charged in relation to Haleigh Cummings disappearance, will well known, respected, lawyers leap into the case Pro Bono? Will Henry Lee fly on down to look at evidence?

Image and what might sell is very important, to the media and to attorneys. Would AL, LKB, CM, etc. rush up to Satsuma and offer to help for free?

This is what is driving me crazy about KC being declared indigent. How many other people are sitting in jail, accused of a crime, and having a public defender do their best to represent them?

 

[Lexington]

When they were discussing monies received by KC and who got what at the hearing, I noticed that KC scribbled something furiously on paper and passed it to (I think) ALyon. I think that note showed the amount that C and G received. KC looked very mad about it.

 

[Novice Seeker]

(pardon me if this has been resolved. Trying to keep up with this case has been ummm... difficult):banghead:



Previously and several times I've mentioned the ABC deal and Baez caught on camera with the producer for a period of time negotiating a deal. Remember, the night LE was out all night collecting evidence around Caylee's little body and the Anthony family stayed at the Ritz and was wined and dined. IIRC, no one from the Anthony family reached out to LE that evening. Matter of fact, I think the Anthony's didn't have any further contact with LE until they showed up with warrants. But, let me get back to my original question and comments. (Sorry)

1. Baez stood before Judge Strickland "as an officer of the court" and swore he had not obtained any money from any deals. Aaaa, isn't that what he was doing when he was caught on video with the ABC producer. The same amount that he admitted to during the KC's poor hearing.

2. Lyon. She spent money on what sort of equipment? She most likely owns a laptop with a web camera, skype is free, most likely the phone calls were placed at the university she teaches at. She's had free labor, err sorry, students to research. So what sort of equipment along with (cough) travel would equal $22,000?

3. We have a private donor who contributed $5000.00. If it's something to shameful to put your name to it DON'T DO IT.

4. Then, we have $70,000.00 which was donated by TM. Question is considering the type of legal trouble he's in with the California Bar which evolves around MONEY how does this play into his donation?

5. And hello, where is Todd Black? Baez acknowledged how much he paid the PR spokesperson who has since left wonder why nothing was mentioned about Black. He was on the case until someone reported Baez.

6. As to Baez claiming money has been spent on P.I's. Uh, hello, didn't DC file a complaint against him because DC wasn't paid?

So, 200,000.00 ABC Baez claims approx. 85,000.00
70,000 .00 TM Lyon claims approx. 21,000.00
5,000.00 who knows who The last spokesperson 10,000.00
=275,000.00 give or take. :waitasec: = 116,000.00

Doesn't there seem to be about $159,000.00 still sitting around. Now MuzikMan maybe able to give us an approximate amount Baez has spent on the cost for documents. As for depositions the only ones, which were most likley a waste of time and energy, where of the jail officials. Recently Baez did hire another P.I to go digging for dirt of RK but that shouldn't cost $159,000.00.

Does any of this add up to you all or should I go back to my bowl of M&M's? They help me to think ya know. :angel:



Novice Seeker

 

[Lexington]

Just making a wild guestimate here, I would think that C and G's cut would be $100,000. When are we going to see a copy of that accounting that JB gave JS, which was approved so rapidly? For transparency's sake, of course.

 

[Novice Seeker]

Just making a wild guestimate here, I would think that C and G's cut would be $100,000. When are we going to see a copy of that accounting that JB gave JS, which was approved so rapidly? For transparency's sake, of course.

Which reminds me does C&G have any legal rights to accepting any money related to Caylee since KC hasn't been found guilty yet?

As to your question though, the ol' saying when H*** freezes over comes to mind.

Novice Seeker

 

[TrialAddict]

Even if, Casey is found guilty,C&G can make as much money as they want related to Caylee. Unless they too get convicted for something to do with her death.

 

[drip~drop]

The indigent status had to be granted. JB does not HAVE to remain on the case - which is what I'm thinking. Disney/ABC has made a statement. JB submitted his "accounting". There will be repercussions about all this. Regardless, KC will get her day in court.

I'm just hoping now of the rest of her posse will not be with her.

Me thinks JB torpedoed and sunk his boat yesterday for all to see.

I Can NOT even begin to say how disgusted I am with Disney!

HOW DARE THEY!!?? IMO, the whole idea OF Disney is kids kids kids.
Now they have PAID money to a (alleged--(ugg) ) baby murderer.
That is just plain sick.
I am so sadly disappointed by them.:furious:
moo

 

[BlOnDe_GuRrL]

UGH! Well, hopefully it'll irk the jury anyway!

 

[drip~drop]

I assume that if it ever appears that she is no longer indigent, the State could ask for the determination to be reviewed in light of new circumstances.

IMO, whatever gets "donated" to her jail account for snacks should be put towards her defense costs.

 

[Just Jayla]

Are you against the fair trial system? Why should she not have the same rights the state has? Dr Vass is from out of state, Dr Haskell is from out of state, Dr Brown is from out of state, FBI Quantico is from out of state. Her Lawyers are paying their own expenses. IMO

BBM-The state has the burden of proof and they are elected to the specific task of trying cases. KC does not have to lay out any defense at all.

 

[FeelSoOld]

This whole indigent thing is based on the death penalty. The State made their choice and now they have to live with it.

No. The defense used the DP as an excuse as to why she could no longer afford to pay her own way. It was an indirect way to throw blame on the SA as to why the taxpayers would have to pay for the remainder of her defense.

She's out of money. End of story. Even if the DP had not been put back on the table, she'd still be out of money.

 

[Just Jayla]

No. The defense used the DP as an excuse as to why she could no longer afford to pay her own way. It was an indirect way to throw blame on the SA as to why the taxpayers would have to pay for the remainder of her defense.

She's out of money. End of story. Even if the DP had not been put back on the table, she'd still be out of money.

I can only write about my own state, but when it is the general philosphy of the people that the DP is allowable, it is also generally accepted that defendants are going to need money. We have excuted three people here in the past 6-9 months (John Mohammed amongst them, a high profile case), and we are not complaining about footing the bill, it is part of the equation.

BUT, we would complain if we thought that there was a large amount of money put away for the defendant and they were not coming off of it.
JB submitted paperwork to the court to demonstrate where all of the money went. And Judge S. made his determination...Swell-Now show it to the public. Is it JB's chickenscratch, or is it a well-presented accounting with check and invoice numbers?

This is important and this is the real issue at hand-No one on this board thinks KC walked into this case a wealthy woman, and I don't think anyone here doubts, even if KC did have almost $164K left, that she will need help before this case is over. But $164 G's is a lot of money and KC hired and paid a retainer with a private attorney (JB), so if he needs expenses/wages paid to him by the state, that $164K expenditure needs to be disclosed to the public. JMO.

ETA: If information sensitive to the direction of her defense is in the docs that the defense gave to Judge S., it can be easily redacted and still give us an idea of whether it is "official." I don't need to see JB's actual bank account, I have to trust him at some point as an officer of the court-I also trust my church, yet they display their expenditures on a giant billboard each month.

 

[elementary]

The ABC / Disney statement that was made said the money was for relativeS. I'm betting the A's got about 100K - half. Per JB's accounting, there was like $165k not accounted for.

Well, if you take $100k off that went to the A's - then we're down to $65k - Dr. Lee, I'll bet took a chunk, and then there was Reichs (which she has said she ain't talkin').

JB didn't want the fact that the A's got half of that deal out in the public - hence all the in camera requests. I still think he's in trouble because ABC / Disney said HE (and they specifically said his name) brokered the deal for the relativeS. Not good. But, we shall see.

curiouser and curiouser

Yes, I too believe that he wanted the money transactions to remain unexposed. Exposed, they put ABC, (the ever potential source of his income) and the As in a very bad light (eg., As can't pay their mortgage, huh?). Ultimately, he was protecting his own interests and trying to keep a lid on his shenanigans to the point of perjuring himself.

As for brokering the deal, I believe he did. But there will be a splitting of hairs spin on it as usual; he knows how to play the system (which seems to favour crooks anyway, IMO).

 

[TrialAddict]

Does the state have the right to see the documentation, JB submitted to JS? If so, can the state request more info if they are not happy with what was given?