2010.04.14 Search scene now a CRIME scene-Misty to testify against perp in plea deal

[tlcya]

I am not buying it. The video NG played was shot from a helicopter. If Natisha had been on a neighbors dock she would have been filming and from google sat maps the only neighbors dock she could have been on would have given her a view of the back of Misty.

ITA! But that is the whole big deal of NG's story all night last night. She pointed - she pointed - she pointed. If NG was gonna make that the big "breaking" newsflash then SHOW IT!

Other wise, there was plenty of real "breaking" news on Haleigh's case yesterday, why embelish? I just can't stand her. Sorry, that is one opinion I hold on this forum that is not subject to debate, review or change, ever.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

ITA Dr. Fessel - plus don't you think that LE would have NOT let Natisha, or any reporter or camera crew just sit on a dock and "watch". LE has that area in lockdown, with residents having to sign in and out.

The report last night about it now being a crime scene - if it wasn't wouldn't LE by now have said it is NOT a crime scene? Or are they just letting the rumors and innuendo run rampant?

 

[Blue Ridge]

Her website....In her own words what happen to Haleigh

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.com/2010/04/criminal-profiling-topic-of-day-why.html

This makes the best sense of any other theory. Yep.

 

[pip]

The only reason I can figure RC wouldn't own up to a gun and a fight over it or with it is maybe the gun has been used in some crime that RC wouldn't want traced back to him?

Just braind stormin. I still beleieve RC is a bad dude and not a concerned father but do not feel he was part of whatever happened to his daughter, although I think he is neck deep in whatever came after.

I am thinking the same thing. And if Misty found the gun in the culvert and returned it to Ronald, it may be the same gun Ronald had with him during the road rage incident with CJ, in which CJ states Ronald pulled a gun out. It interests me that Misty called 911 and states their location to be on "309 right after Shell Harbor" (exactly where they are looking for something now). Ronald tells the cop that he has no gun on him, that it's locked up at home. Since they involved LE by calling 911, you think he may have ditched the gun at Shell Harbor, Misty squealed, and now they are looking for it? And if so, how does it tie in to Haleigh's disappearance?

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/cummings_case/041510-Haleigh-Cummings
Investigators say Haleigh's dad Ronald Cummings and Overstreet got into a fight over a gun just days before Haleigh disappeared. That tip led investigators to search the Saint Johns River in Putnam County. Divers are back in the river today, for the 3rd day in a row.

So it does sound like they are searching for the gun in question, according to FOX Orlando.. If Joe had it and threw it there..how would Misty know? If Ronald threw it there during the CJ road rage incident, Misty would know...

Ronald must be carping his pants now that he knows WHERE they are searching, because he knows Misty has ratted him out on the gun disposal. Explains the look on his face after the family meeting w/ LE. Weak poker face with stress showing through, IMO. Stunned.

 

[minazoe]

I am sure the family dealt with Joe the rapist in their own way. I am sure that Misty has been taught to protect family even if she is raped. Hillbilly CODE. Seriously, if Joe is a bad dude and his whole family knows it...nothing will likley happen until he hangs himself.

Misty is brave to come forward. Brave to end this. I feel like when she is talking to family she is hoping and searching for the slightest support...to say to her gramma for probably the 50 thousanth time that Joe raped her...and to finally get through...I think maybe we are going to find the child now.

 

[Donjeta]

Brought this over from the (now closed) NG thread from last night-
this transcript was what was on her show- haven't seen any links to it yet.
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Letter Misty wrote to her relatives

I feel so bad about this s*** you know cause I didn't say it.
I was scare no one now what he said he would do you know that day when he would not go back to the house and he stayed at the story he put me up with a knife and said if I said he would come back and kill me.
He told me at the house he would kill me to so I didn't know what to do. He has a (illegible) raped me you know.
I knew Tommy was coming to get the gun but I didn't know it was gone and that is when Joe got mad.
Tom had walked out and that is when Joe took it.
You know I don't know where Tommy went.
I don't think he did s*** but I know he now.
Joe did they was so *advertiser censored**** up and I mean I don't know how Joe even drove home.
That is why the van has scratch on (illegible) he was so *advertiser censored**** up bad.
That is all for now.
I just wish I knew what he did.
Timmy and Chelsea please right me back as soon as you get this.

Took it? Is she still talking about the gun? Is Haleigh an it to her?

According to this letter she does not appear to have a clue what Joe did with Haleigh so how can she now point at a spot in the water?

 

[sunsetbeach]

ITA Dr. Fessel - plus don't you think that LE would have NOT let Natisha, or any reporter or camera crew just sit on a dock and "watch". LE has that area in lockdown, with residents having to sign in and out.

The report last night about it now being a crime scene - if it wasn't wouldn't LE by now have said it is NOT a crime scene? Or are they just letting the rumors and innuendo run rampant?

I can't remember his name but there was a reporter on JAX news yesterday at noon that was on a neighbor's dock filming. It was a different angle than video shot above from the helicopter.

I don't know if it's true, I'm just repeating what the reporter said so it could be possible that someone in that neighborhood is smuggling in reporters.
Heck maybe they would get in a trunk of a car just to get the jump on a story. lol.

 

[PoppyH]

I am sure the family dealt with Joe the rapist in their own way. I am sure that Misty has been taught to protect family even if she is raped. Hillbilly CODE. Seriously, if Joe is a bad dude and his whole family knows it...nothing will likley happen until he hangs himself.

Misty is brave to come forward. Brave to end this. I feel like when she is talking to family she is hoping and searching for the slightest support...to say to her gramma for probably the 50 thousanth time that Joe raped her...and to finally get through...I think maybe we are going to find the child now.

How can you be hanging up Missing flyers the day after your young charge goes missing, with the person who supposedly raped you and took said charge and killed her?? It makes no sense what so ever, Misty is NOT the scared little girl she tries to make herself out to be, she would have been on the phone stat to LE had she known her so called rapist was about to take Haliegh and kill her... what a BS story! JMO

 

[Dee10]

ITA Dr. Fessel - plus don't you think that LE would have NOT let Natisha, or any reporter or camera crew just sit on a dock and "watch". LE has that area in lockdown, with residents having to sign in and out.

The report last night about it now being a crime scene - if it wasn't wouldn't LE by now have said it is NOT a crime scene? Or are they just letting the rumors and innuendo run rampant?

Just had a thought, the NG show could have called a neighbor offered money to allow her to visit. The neighbor goes up to wherever, picks her up then goes back through the road block with Natisha. I don't think LE could do anything about a neighbor having a visitor. Would the NG show do that, IMO yep!

 

[gibby207]

Pat Brown is one smart cookie!!

 

[tehcloser]

I am sure the family dealt with Joe the rapist in their own way. I am sure that Misty has been taught to protect family even if she is raped. Hillbilly CODE. Seriously, if Joe is a bad dude and his whole family knows it...nothing will likley happen until he hangs himself.

Misty is brave to come forward. Brave to end this. I feel like when she is talking to family she is hoping and searching for the slightest support...to say to her gramma for probably the 50 thousanth time that Joe raped her...and to finally get through...I think maybe we are going to find the child now.

BBM

I'm sorry, I watched the video, and I don't see a "bad dude". On his myspace he may play one, but the video tells a different story.

Edited to add....we do NOT know that Joe is a rapist.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

Just had a thought, the NG show could have called a neighbor offered money to allow her to visit. The neighbor goes up to wherever, picks her up then goes back through the road block with Natisha. I don't think LE could do anything about a neighbor having a visitor. Would the NG show do that, IMO yep!

Then why not show the video on NG? The only video they showed was from Sky News 6 helicopter. It would have been a major scoop. Look, there is Misty pointing in the water.

 

[Amster]

Didn't Misty show deception during the poly or voice stress thingy set up by TM on the question of if Ron was involved?

 

[zoey]

I am sure the family dealt with Joe the rapist in their own way. I am sure that Misty has been taught to protect family even if she is raped. Hillbilly CODE. Seriously, if Joe is a bad dude and his whole family knows it...nothing will likley happen until he hangs himself.

Misty is brave to come forward. Brave to end this. I feel like when she is talking to family she is hoping and searching for the slightest support...to say to her gramma for probably the 50 thousanth time that Joe raped her...and to finally get through...I think maybe we are going to find the child now.

brave would have been if she came forward with info when Haleigh went missing...not right now....

 

[gypsyblue]

I am sure the family dealt with Joe the rapist in their own way. I am sure that Misty has been taught to protect family even if she is raped. Hillbilly CODE. Seriously, if Joe is a bad dude and his whole family knows it...nothing will likley happen until he hangs himself.

Misty is brave to come forward. Brave to end this. I feel like when she is talking to family she is hoping and searching for the slightest support...to say to her gramma for probably the 50 thousanth time that Joe raped her...and to finally get through...I think maybe we are going to find the child now.

really? Do you have confirmation on such a strong accusation, or just mistys 475647386th story.....wow

 

[Dr.Fessel]

BBM

I'm sorry, I watched the video, and I don't see a "bad dude". On his myspace he may play one, but the video tells a different story.

Tehcloser, a good friend of mine watched the video and said no way did he do anything.

I watched about 30 seconds of it and thought yep he did it.

I don't trust either one of us. LOL LOL

It does bother me though that it appears he has had a major change in his lifestyle according to family. That can be a sign of involvement.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

I can't see Misty and rape in the same sentence. I know this will sound cold but it is reality. Druggie girls will do ANYTHING for their fix. We all know how promiscuous Misty was (3 day sex/drug binge with WBG). IMO MC will "sleep" with just about anyone. The "rape" word only comes in after the fact if she doesn't get what was planned.

IOW - you can't rape the willing.

Ok - there I said it. Please be kind and throw "little" rocks - 'k?

 

[Spyglass]

I am not buying it. The video NG played was shot from a helicopter. If Natisha had been on a neighbors dock she would have been filming and from google sat maps the only neighbors dock she could have been on would have given her a view of the back of Misty.

I don't know where Natisha was. I do know that I was totally tied up yesterday all day until 9:55 pm. I had to make the tough decision whether to catch the first minute of local news or NG.

I first turned on the local news (Channel 4, Jacksonville) and watched about a minute. I saw video of MC on the dock and she was pointing. (She could have simply been pointing while asking if that was the spot the investigators were talking to her about, I don't know.) NOTE: This video was obviously shot from above.

I then watched NG and kept seeing the same footage where MC is mostly just looking down at the dock. I wondered why they didn't show the footage of the finger pointing by MC. NOTE: MC and investigators were standing in same spot, facing the same directions, in both the local and NG video.

PERHAPS Natisha was sharing a dock with local media or picked up the info about the " pointing video" while talking to local media. That would explain why NG was mentioning it.

 

[tehcloser]

Tehcloser, a good friend of mine watched the video and said no way did he do anything.

I watched about 30 seconds of it and thought yep he did it.

I don't trust either one of us. LOL LOL

It does bother me though that it appears he has had a major change in his lifestyle according to family. That can be a sign of involvement.

The funny thing is Doc, before I watched it, I could have bought into the he did something line of thought, but after watching it I see no way that timid guy would dare do anything to pi** Ron off. Help Ron, yes. Anger Ron, no.

 

[tlcya]

I am sure the family dealt with Joe the rapist in their own way. I am sure that Misty has been taught to protect family even if she is raped. Hillbilly CODE. Seriously, if Joe is a bad dude and his whole family knows it...nothing will likley happen until he hangs himself.

Misty is brave to come forward. Brave to end this. I feel like when she is talking to family she is hoping and searching for the slightest support...to say to her gramma for probably the 50 thousanth time that Joe raped her...and to finally get through...I think maybe we are going to find the child now.

wow, that is one hell of a leap. So let me get this right. Over here on the Haleigh thread when a known liar, with zero credibility who is reported to have failed at least three seperate polys, makes a claim against a relative about being raped/molested - it is a fact and she is brave????

but

Over on the Caylee Anthony threads when tot mom divulges in letter she was molested by one maybe two family members, having reported similar things to friends and family well BEFORE the disappearance of her daughter and has not failed polys to our knowledge, she can't be believed because she is not credible and far from being brave, she is simply an ungrateful pathological liar??

huh, interesting. Gonna have to respectfully agree to completely disagree on this one.