2010.04.19 Judge Strickland IS stepping down

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Dear Prudence said:
Yes, that is video from the grand jury that indicted Casey on murder on Oct. 14, 2008. That is SA Lawson Lamar speaking. Casey is the named defendent who is not yet in custody he was talking about, so the indictment was sealed. As soon as she was arrested the indictment was unsealed and her charges were released to the public. Belvin Perry, Jr. is the judge who presided over the grand jury proceedings.

Here's the original article about the indictment that included the video clip: http://www.wftv.com/news/17705500/detail.html#
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So I did read that right...wow...just wow...I don't believe in Karma..but...:croc:
 
LambChop said:
Defense just finished their depos with the FBI experts and are requesting further information on the reports from SA's office so can we assume that they did not get the desired results from the depos. that they wanted. Is there some real damning evidence we just have not seen yet, i.e. bite marks on the duct tape?????

Why now did they decided to remove the judge unless there is something going on they may be trying to slip by everyone without much notice??? To take such a bold move there has to be something worst under the smokescreen. JMO
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I posted about this earlier (at like 3am when I could barely see or type so its probably more incomprehensible than normal). I don't think this is so much about the judge himself or even matters directly before the court.

I suspect that the motion to recuse is more and more a housecleaning move by CM as he takes full charge of the defense. It is essentially part of a coup in the defense team where JB is about to be shoved aside. I think RH is partially right, in that when JS did not bow down before CM's first court appearence, and obviously seemed to tag him as just another one of the clowns in the KC/JB circus, CM decided he had to go. CM wants a judge that has not been spending the past year + listening directly to JB's garbage. He wants a judge with high expectations of competance and procedural accuracy, because that is something he can provide. So no threat to him. What he doesn't want is one who has direct experience with and already established impressions of the defense up to this point.

So he wins. He has a clean slate with a new tough as nails judge. And Baez's bagage is pretty much swept away. As long as they keep JB more or less sidelined, and play very very conservative with the motions for a bit (yeah somebody will probably need to sit on AL), then they will be starting fresh with a whole new face before the court, a whole new respect for the court, and a much greater liklihood of getting the things they need to go their way.

Yes there are downsides. It's going to be tough for any of the defense team to accomplish anything in front of any judge in the circuit after this stunt. But what does he care? He's retiring. AL and LKB aren't Florida attorneys and will in all liklihood never face any of the circuit again, and Baez? I think in the best of all possible worlds for CM, JB loses his law license before this is all over and done. That gives CM a huge appealable issue as a backup plan.
 
So would you say that CM's game plan is to force the state into accepting a plea deal? JB has made a mess, CM has to clean it up and the state, to save money, needs to come up with some sort of "Let's make a deal"???
 
faefrost said:
I posted about this earlier (at like 3am when I could barely see or type so its probably more incomprehensible than normal). I don't think this is so much about the judge himself or even matters directly before the court.

I suspect that the motion to recuse is more and more a housecleaning move by CM as he takes full charge of the defense. It is essentially part of a coup in the defense team where JB is about to be shoved aside. I think RH is partially right, in that when JS did not bow down before CM's first court appearence, and obviously seemed to tag him as just another one of the clowns in the KC/JB circus, CM decided he had to go. CM wants a judge that has not been spending the past year + listening directly to JB's garbage. He wants a judge with high expectations of competance and procedural accuracy, because that is something he can provide. So no threat to him. What he doesn't want is one who has direct experience with and already established impressions of the defense up to this point.

So he wins. He has a clean slate with a new tough as nails judge. And Baez's bagage is pretty much swept away. As long as they keep JB more or less sidelined, and play very very conservative with the motions for a bit (yeah somebody will probably need to sit on AL), then they will be starting fresh with a whole new face before the court, a whole new respect for the court, and a much greater liklihood of getting the things they need to go their way.

Yes there are downsides. It's going to be tough for any of the defense team to accomplish anything in front of any judge in the circuit after this stunt. But what does he care? He's retiring. AL and LKB aren't Florida attorneys and will in all liklihood never face any of the circuit again, and Baez? I think in the best of all possible worlds for CM, JB loses his law license before this is all over and done. That gives CM a huge appealable issue as a backup plan.
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I've also considered this, though not in such wonderful detail. Just his commentary on the "circus" before he became the obvious ringmaster is a case in point. There certainly was no thought for Baez's future in recusing JS. Well, yeah, I can't imagine anyone seriously thinks Baez has any future in law after this case.

If what you're thinking is true, then I wonder if Mason will not be doing his disrespectful, smarmy, good old boy act in front of Judge Perry.
 
I believe JS will be moving over to civil court as was originally in his plans before this trial. So unless JB has a civil case in court he will probably not be seeing JS, unless it's in the hallway of the courthouse, out to dinner, a local movie, etc.
 
faefrost said:
I believe this JS was their peremptory challenge. Their challenge with the weight of truth. So no they don't get another. To challenge from here requires hard evidence of bias or inappropriate decisions,
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It's actually just the opposite. This was their challenge for cause. Can't file a peremptory challenge (for no cause) after the judge has heard motions on their merits.
 
LiveLaughLuv said:
BILL SHEAFFER: Analysis Of Casey Judge Stepping Down
http://www.wftv.com/video/23200720/index.html

Judge Perry is known as "no nonsense," "demanding of professionalism," "demanding in competence," "no nonsense from litigants who appear before him" - "a judge's judge."

they will not gain any tactical advantage, we're not going to see a different outcome of this case because judge Perry has it and the defense will be held to a higher standard and Judge Perry will probably be a little less patient with ineptitude (LOL) than JS was.

Watch out Baez, no more incompetence from you or your team!
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Yep reminds me of the old adage "be careful what you wish for"......

The defense team is going to regret this imo. They couldn't have had a more patient or fairer Judge than Judge Strickland imo.

imo
 
My feelings on this whole situation is that JB and crew wanted to do something to get this case back in the spotlight because the Haleigh Cummings case had been the topic of the news this past week. Well JB be careful what you ask for because from what I hear this new Judge is way tougher than JS. Additionally, didnt we see that new discovery was released to the defense recently that we have not seen yet. If so I believe there was probably something in there that the defense wants the attention taken away from.
 
Kentjbkent said:
I don't think anyone, Mason and Hornsby included, had any "insider information" that Judge Perry was going to get his hands on this case.

From what I am understanding, once a judge recluses himself from a case, it automatically falls back into the hands of the Chief Justice for reassignment.

(Initially, the OS reported that Perry WAS going to reassign the case....they have now updated that statement and removed this portion)

In this case, I think it was a no-brainer that as soon as it passed to CJ Perry, he was going to take control of it personally, as opposed to reassigning it to a less experienced judge at this point.

I imagine Perry has done quite a bit of head slapping and grimacing over this case as the superior to Strickland.

Game on!
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I agree with all you've said but would like to add a point. JBP has probably been the judge following this case the most closely in his capacity of Chief Judge. He probably felt it would take him much less time than any of the others to get up to speed thereby saving the taxpayers money. He is very conscientious about how money is spent in the courts. I had a feeling he would keep the case because of this.
 
I don't think I'm going O/T here. I'm just in awe of that order (complete with footnotes) I just read.

Judge Stan, will you marry me ?
 
Not to open any wounds here (sorry Dick Tracy if you're lurking), but I heard something and checked it out and came across this link. The last part is why I'm posting this:

"Casey's defense attorney's public relations firm said Monday that "anything on the blogs we don't pay attention to," because they're unreliable."

It probably would backfire on the defense to bring up the bloggers, since many of them believe Casey Anthony murdered her daughter Caylee."

http://www.wftv.com/news/17877073/detail.html
 
I'm not sure if this has been said...just checking in today. I think he prob also recused himself to avoid the defense of having any reason to get another trial. I think this may come back to bite the defense in the butt. I think JS has been EXTREMELY fair. He is a class act. Yes JS the irony is indeed rich.
 
This is what happens when I go offline for 3 days and try to enjoy life??? Good grief! Well, hate to see JS go, but from what I have read on the other thread about the new judge, I say YIPEE YIAAY MFs. Can't possibly think why the defense would have wanted this move to go this way, but here we are. Buckle up.
 
strawberry said:
Oh Goooooooooood Grieeeeeefffffff. I guess the "aggrandizing media hound" comment went over someone's head.
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Thank you! That's exactly what I thought.

At the very first I felt a little bad for poor Dave. Then it became abundantly clear that he's quite enjoying his moment in the spotlight.

I've been lurking and reading the comments at his site (:rolleyes:) where he's been pouting and whining and deleting negative comments right and left - so much for fair and balanced, eh? Oh, and made some very derogatory comments aimed at women who dared call him out on his foolishness.

Then... all of a sudden, "TruTV in 5 minutes!" :woohoo: :dance:

GAH!!!
 
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