2010.06.30 - KATU Confirming TH posting in its Comments Section

[WhyaDuck?]

Innocent of what? Posting on the Internet?

Oh man, if that's illegal now, I am in so. much. trrrrouble.

 

[Cher352]

I just wanted to point something out here. Below is a statement from the article. They traced her user ID to her email, then to the ISP which was in Terri's name. There is no way to know FOR A FACT that Terri posted those comments.

I am sure anyone and everyone in the house use the same internet connection and/or computer regardless of which name it is listed in. Also, I stay signed into many sites online. Anyone could use my computer and comment under one of my user ID's. In that case, it would not actually be me that posted the comment.

It looks like the press will be digging for any little scrap they can get on Terri just to have something to report. I'm not sure I agree w/ that approach.

KATU News traced her user ID to an e-mail address, which it then traced to a professional Internet profile in the name of Terri Horman. The account was set up well before Kyron disappeared.

I thought of that too, those comments could have been from her mom using her account. I could see were a mom would try to justify her daughter's actions, we see it all the time.

I also agree that it was pretty low of the station to do that. It would be one thing if the station had found out and just watched that posters for clues but to announce it to the public is another thing.

How many of us really read all the fine print at these sites, I know I don't. What if all the sites started posting the real identities of their posters? I have seen a lot of racist and demented comments posted on some of the major networks boards that I am sure those people would be very embarrassed or worse if their identities would be made known.

 

[evelyn24]

Innocent of what? Posting on the Internet?

Yea, I'm not sure how the site confirming the statements/posts about the case were indeed coming from her account makes her look guilty of anything.
Its NEWS and the site should have reported it! It's a person very much in the news in a highly covered case giving statements about the case and defending the family.
And for those who think it could be someone using her account, they said this account was setup before Kyron went missing, so who would know of this random account she had in order to get on and post pretending to be TH? It's not like it was created just to talk about this case.

Also, this lady seems to seek out attention on the internet.
JMO

 

[Emeralgem]

BBM. I completely agree! What bothers me most is that, even thought they traced it back to Terri, they can NOT PROVE FOR A FACT that Terri is the one that posted that. Anyone w/ access to the house and computer could have posted that.

What if SM is innocent?

And what IF she is guilty of hurting Kyron?
Also, I didn't see the question she was replying to when she is speaking of her pain and her stress, but IF she is innocent I'm sincerely sorry for the pain and the stress she is experiencing and feeling, however, IF she isn't innocent, I could care less about her pain..All I am concerned with is Kyron being alive, and being returned home safely.JMO

 

[Day Dreamer]

Innocent of what? Posting on the Internet?

Innocent in Kyron's disappearance. The public has already decided she is guilty and her every action is being scrutinized. IF she is innocent, can you imagine how she feels?

I'm not sure she is innocent. The circumstantial evidence is definitely damning; but, call me crazy, I prefer to see hard evidence before I decide she is guilty.

 

[keeponsearching]

Innocent in Kyron's disappearance. The public has already decided she is guilty and her every action is being scrutinized. IF she is innocent, can you imagine how she feels?

I'm not sure she is innocent. The circumstantial evidence is definitely damning; but, call me crazy, I prefer to see hard evidence before I decide she is guilty.

I have the same feelings as you, thanks for putting it in words :angel:

 

[curiousgal]

I have the same feelings as you, thanks for putting it in words :angel:

Ditto... I don't know 110% if she is solely guilty but I just don't see much other true scenarios. I would if it was me, be shouting from the roof top, demanding that I speak to the media, and that the LE do something to help show I am innocent, and working with whoever whenever to clear my name and find my son.

 

[LindseyLou]

Innocent in Kyron's disappearance. The public has already decided she is guilty and her every action is being scrutinized. IF she is innocent, can you imagine how she feels?

I'm not sure she is innocent. The circumstantial evidence is definitely damning; but, call me crazy, I prefer to see hard evidence before I decide she is guilty.

Agreed. I have my opinions of the facts I know at this point, but I am certainly not about to be condemning her publicly and in a hateful manner like some of the other website comments because of what my opinion might be. We do not have all the facts - even though the miniscule facts we do have look pretty suspicious for her...

 

[Day Dreamer]

And what IF she is guilty of hurting Korman?
Also, I didn't see the question she was replying to when she is speaking of her pain and her stress, but IF she is innocent I'm sincerely sorry for the pain and the stress she is experiencing and feeling, however, IF she isn't innocent, I could care less about her pain..All I am concerned with is Kyron being alive, and being returned home safely.JMO

BBM. I absolutely agree w/ you. IF she did this she will have no sympathy or understanding from me no matter what the circumstances.

I'm just haunted by the Ramsey, Dowalloby, Duggar, etc. cases where a parent(s) were hounded, accused, some even convicted of crimes they did not commit. I don't want to be one of those people. I want to hear the evidence before I make up my mind and start bashing.

IF SM is guilty (and for the record, I am leaning that way more and more every day in my mind ... but I am trying to keep my mind open) then I hope she has slipped up, run her mouth, etc. I hope she majorly slips up and spills the beans on where Kyron is.

If Kyron is dead his loved ones will not even get the chance to view their child one last time to say goodbye even if his body is found. That is so cruel! Regardless, IF KM had problems w/ Kyron, how could she inflict that kind of pain on a man she is supposed to love, a friend (Kyron's mom), her own children, etc.? Anyone capable of such actions should not have the right to take another breath of air.

IF SM is guilty, I want to see her prosecuted by the law w/ evidence to prove her guilt. I do not want to see her tried in the media only to find out she had nothing to do w/ it and someone else entirely is arrested and convicted.

 

[evelyn24]

Innocent in Kyron's disappearance. The public has already decided she is guilty and her every action is being scrutinized. IF she is innocent, can you imagine how she feels?

I'm not sure she is innocent. The circumstantial evidence is definitely damning; but, call me crazy, I prefer to see hard evidence before I decide she is guilty.

Should the KATU site worry about what some people online will think of TH for posting?
No, that's not their problem to worry about. People will think what they want anyway. I'm sure other factors would be going into someone coming to the conclusion she's guilty, and not just her posts on KATU. If someone is inclined to think that way they probably felt that way before the posts.
A key figure in a high profile case is leaving comments about the case on their site...to me that's news. As a news organization they should have reported on it.

 

[Donjeta]

Well, I dunno but if I was TH and found out via a news network that somebody was posting with my computer using my username pretending to be me I'd be mighty mad but not at the news network for telling me.

 

[sofia76]

A key figure in a high profile case is leaving comments about the case on their site...to me that's news. As a news organization they should have reported on it.

Yep, that's the crux of it. If she had been standing in the street talking about the case, or at the library, or grocery store, or any other public place .... Or if she was sending letters to newspapers (which, by the way, is not all that different from posting comments to an online news article on a news company's website!), that would all be news!

 

[sofia76]

IF SM is guilty, I want to see her prosecuted by the law w/ evidence to prove her guilt. I do not want to see her tried in the media only to find out she had nothing to do w/ it and someone else entirely is arrested and convicted.

I agree. But to that end, none of us should be speculating about this case - or any case at all. In this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. Even if there is "strong evidence" (and that is subjective), a person can be innocent of the crime they are accused of. Even when a person confesses, they could be innocent.

So really, where do you draw the line? Can we only talk about what facts have emerged, and what actions are occurring, with no speculation at all until (if/when) the courts determine what happened?

 

[LindseyLou]

BBM. I absolutely agree w/ you. IF she did this she will have no sympathy or understanding from me no matter what the circumstances.

I'm just haunted by the Ramsey, Dowalloby, Duggar, etc. cases where a parent(s) were hounded, accused, some even convicted of crimes they did not commit. I don't want to be one of those people. I want to hear the evidence before I make up my mind and start bashing.

IF SM is guilty (and for the record, I am leaning that way more and more every day in my mind ... but I am trying to keep my mind open) then I hope she has slipped up, run her mouth, etc. I hope she majorly slips up and spills the beans on where Kyron is.

If Kyron is dead his loved ones will not even get the chance to view their child one last time to say goodbye even if his body is found. That is so cruel! Regardless, IF KM had problems w/ Kyron, how could she inflict that kind of pain on a man she is supposed to love, a friend (Kyron's mom), her own children, etc.? Anyone capable of such actions should not have the right to take another breath of air.

IF SM is guilty, I want to see her prosecuted by the law w/ evidence to prove her guilt. I do not want to see her tried in the media only to find out she had nothing to do w/ it and someone else entirely is arrested and convicted.

Thanks for putting my thoughts into words. Two versions I keep thinking:

If TMH DID do something to Kyron...imagine what she is going through sitting in that house in the middle of the woods with her thoughts eating away at her. LE are putting some major pressure on her every move, hubby leaves with the baby/RO/and Divorce Papers, reporters are camped out front, and the media has run wild with comments re: theories and speculation that she did it. She has to be freaking out thinking someone will find something.

If TMH DID NOT do something to Kyron...imagine what she is going through sitting in the house with her life crumbling around her - all because she was the last person to see Kyron and has inconsistencies in her version of how the day went. Her hubby leaving her based on info from LE and taking her baby girl out of the house in a move that was supported by LE and with a RO and Divorce papers. She maybe initially spoke to reporters because she was naive and trusting in her small town that people would do the right thing and wait for LE to make their case against whoever did something with Kyron. She might have made online comments to try to clear the air of her innocence so everyone would continue to focus on what might have really happened instead of her every move.

I don't know...hard to imagine being in her place, either way it has to be ROUGH. I just keep clinging to hope that someone will make a break in the case and have some kind of new info for us - I am praying every day that this is will end with him alive and maybe someone has just taken him temporarily instead of our worst fears that he was abducted or eliminated from the family. very sad for poor little kyron...

 

[believe09]

Should I ask why she cares what a bunch of nameless, faceless people think about her and her actions? This isnt high school. This is a criminal investigation.

 

[spector]

She is. No one on those comments is even the slightest bit anonymous. Here's what you're signing up for. No surprise to me...I can't really believe it's a surprise to anyone else :::shrug:::. But, like I said, nothing to hide, no worries.

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BBM. I really have a problem with this line of thinking. There are plenty of things that one wouldn't necessarily feel the need to hide, but don't wish to have in the public spere. To be outed by an organization of a profession that historically takes very seriously principles that include not outing sources, even on a public comment board, is a betrayal of trust. In my opinion, it is also a serious breach of professional integrity. No, she had no right to privacy, strictly speaking. But, she certainly did have a reasonable expectation of it. Outing her served no purpose other than further adding to the sensationalism of this case and increasing KATU's web traffic. KATU has sent a clear message to it's readership.

 

[ella971]

Should I ask why she cares what a bunch of nameless, faceless people think about her and her actions? This isnt high school. This is a criminal investigation.

I'm on the same page with you. The only thing that matters is Kyron and what happened to him. I'm sure LE is watching her every move including her fingers.

 

[Day Dreamer]

I agree. But to that end, none of us should be speculating about this case - or any case at all. In this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. Even if there is "strong evidence" (and that is subjective), a person can be innocent of the crime they are accused of. Even when a person confesses, they could be innocent.

So really, where do you draw the line? Can we only talk about what facts have emerged, and what actions are occurring, with no speculation at all until (if/when) the courts determine what happened?

BBM. That is a tough line to draw for sure. People are going to discuss cases. They are going to look at every piece of evidence, circumstantial or not, and actions of the person. It's human nature to develop an opinion as to guilt.

I guess, for me, I stop short of saying I know she is guilty because I have no idea what is fact and what is rumor anymore. I'm not going to go on the attack and bash her either. I don't know what happened; and, I don't know what was going on in that home prior.

Other cases, such as Casey Anthony, there is no doubt in my mind of her guilt. The difference is how much information has been released.

No matter how I feel about a case, I can always be wrong; but, I do try my best to keep an open mind and look at all of the evidence. I hope that made sense.

 

[evelyn24]

Yep, that's the crux of it. If she had been standing in the street talking about the case, or at the library, or grocery store, or any other public place .... Or if she was sending letters to newspapers (which, by the way, is not all that different from posting comments to an online news article on a news company's website!), that would all be news!

Yes, I definitely think this is newsworthy. She's a key figure in a high profile case, and she is commenting on an Oregon news site about the case in first person. She's giving little details never before known like why the truck was hauled away etc.
This is newsworthy and should have been reported on once they confirmed it was her account.
I don't have an issue with what KATU did. Whether or not it makes her look good or bad does not sway me one way or another.
And that's not KATU's concern as a news organization.

 

[evelyn24]

I'm on the same page with you. The only thing that matters is Kyron and what happened to him. I'm sure LE is watching her every move including her fingers.

Agreed. I posted this about 100 posts ago...lol
I commented that in the long run her posts are irrelevant as I see nothing of value in them as far as in the details of what she wrote.
It's not going to make or break this case or bring Kyron back home.