2010.10.29 Status Hearing

[TotallyObsessed]

Nope, that Motion was denied.

I know it was denied...but JB's motion was incorrect in that it only talked about the log records, not the recordings themselves. The way I understood it was that if JB were to go back and refile on the grounds of the actual recordings, that would hold with the new ruling in this precedent case that just came out.

Hope that didn't sound snarky....did not mean it to. I'm just confused.

 

[JSR]

I think the problem is that ... JB just basicaly uses the money as and when needed and does not necessarily have any pots or even tracks it.

IIRC he was not even logging hours spent on the case so JB has no-one doing any basic accounting in terms of expenses and funds.

It is probably why no-one got paid, JB took his and then spent the rest on this and that and had nothing left. The only reminder he gets is when it is gone.

You cannot operate in this way so goodness knows how he is going to run a successful trial, from an expenses and logistics perspective.

It's also not how you run a firm either. Let alone a trial.

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

From your post to God's ears and the JAC on the money being misused situation.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

You know what I find so .... SATISFYING????? When they are discussing the psych review, etc for the PENALTY PHASE .... with KC sitting right there. It's like "you are going down, bio%$ch" I think that's what makes her tear up.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

So it looks like Finnell is another Lyon. She's trying to gimmick her way into getting what she wants. I was gobsmacked when she was trying to get $$ to physically go to Ohio, and then lied to the court about being "required" to do so.
1. If it's THAT essential, pay for it yourself. It's Ohio not Antarctica.

2. Leave the people alone. They don't want to talk to you. They told you that. Only a disturbed person would think the next logical step would be to physically visit them. If I tell a telemarketer I'm not interested in something, would it be prudent or make sense for them to come to my house? It's abusive, pushy and disgusting.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

He's working as hard as he can, right. He is the one who waited so long, It's his own fault it is now crunch time.

What is that saying about spending your money wisely? Obviously the defense team in unable to spend their allocated money wisely. I keep thinking 'if only they had invested in a good legal secretary'. They so badly need someone to help them get their eggs in a row. It seems that they have no idea if they're coming or going. It's really sad.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

I know it was denied...but JB's motion was incorrect in that it only talked about the log records, not the recordings themselves. The way I understood it was that if JB were to go back and refile on the grounds of the actual recordings, that would hold with the new ruling in this precedent case that just came out.

Hope that didn't sound snarky....did not mean it to. I'm just confused.

No worries about snarky, internet correspondence is sometimes misinterpreted, I understand.

Had HHJP given Baez that leeway, he would have ruled, "Denied without Prejudice" - but he didn't.

He just denied the Motion, period.

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

Now we do need to give JB some credit today. He did not UMMMM as much as normal. That is the only nice thing I can say

 

[jon_burrows]

So it looks like Finnell is another Lyon. She's trying to gimmick her way into getting what she wants. I was gobsmacked when she was trying to get $$ to physically go to Ohio, and then lied to the court about being "required" to do so.
1. If it's THAT essential, pay for it yourself. It's Ohio not Antarctica.

2. Leave the people alone. They don't want to talk to you. They told you that. Only a disturbed person would think the next logical step would be to physically visit them. If I tell a telemarketer I'm not interested in something, would it be prudent or make sense for them to come to my house? It's abusive, pushy and disgusting.

Harassment too. They are under no obligation to talk to her or open the door. In fact, they can call the police and have her escorted off their property.

IMO

 

[sassy_texasbelle2]

What are they going to tell her in Ohio. From birth to age 3 she played nicely with her dolls.

 

[Lanie]

AND another funny moment....When LDB was 'splainin to JP about the FBI profile questionnaires....you know the ones where Nick Savage told George...um...Cindy's was a little "off"....SEEMS THE DEFENSE TEAM JUST LEARNED ABOUT THOSE IN THE DEPOSITION YESTERDAY of Nick Savage. O.....M......G......... where have these lawyers been? WE ALL HERE AT WS have know about that little gem for 2 years.

I know!! It tempts me to drop a little note to the judge:

"Hey, Judge, I'm not working this case, heck, I'm not even an attorney, but I've had access to and read or at least have known about almost everything the defense keeps whining about just finding out or not having turned over for a long time, and I can show you where I got it."

but I don't, since I feel this judge is well aware of it already.

I have to say, though, it would do my heart good for the state, the next time the defense is claiming not to have received something, to direct them to one of our many media websites that have so graciously put all the document dumps online.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

What are they going to tell her in Ohio. From birth to age 3 she played nicely with her dolls.

I doubt it. She probably chewed their heads off.

 

[SindyBill]

JB and the JAC reminds me of when my mom used to give me a monthly allowance, and then a couple of weeks later I'd be asking for gas money or something. She'd ask me where did my allowance go and how'd I spend it, and I never had an exact answer.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

Harassment too. They are under no obligation to talk to her or open the door. In fact, they can call the police and have her escorted off their property.

IMO

Given the defense's agent's propensity for tampering, I'd be very leery about funding furtive Finnell for another fishing expedition.

 

[Turnadot]

If it were me, I wouldn't open the door for Finnel, the P.I., or anyone else the defense sent to question me unless I was compelled by the court, and only then with my attorney present.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I've pretty much given up on following this case but did watch some of the hearing this afternoon. My reaction: Jose is hopeless. Good luck, Casey!

 

[BChand]

Now we do need to give JB some credit today. He did not UMMMM as much as normal. That is the only nice thing I can say

But I did hear alot of "Well I WILL say this."

As if he'll only say what he wants to in response to Judge Perry's questions

 

[cyberborg]

What are they going to tell her in Ohio. From birth to age 3 she played nicely with her dolls.

Exactly!!!

We are talking about 20 years ago and up to age 3? It is more important to learn about ICA's teenage years, family life, school life, 'work life', etc.

The recollection of folks in Ohio from 20 years ago about ICA up to age 3 pales in comparison.

WTH?

 

[TotallyObsessed]

What are they going to tell her in Ohio. From birth to age 3 she played nicely with her dolls.

They better watch out...they just might tell her "Your client used to bury her dolls in the woods"

 

[drip~drop]

LDB vehement that JB is 'playing games' when they complain that copies of docs are not being shared or disclosed. Goes on to explain how many times she has offered them access.

She's wonderful. I don't blame her a bit. I'd be pretty mad myself if I was her. All the "mistruths" that get told (IMO) and fgs, how long has the defense HAD to do all this already?

IMO again, it doesn't look to me like much of anything has been done except whining. Oh, and an attempt at color coding.:loser:

My favortie part today.....watching Mr. Ashton break out laughing and trying to stop. I think JP also held back a few giggles.
all moo.