2011.06.02 Sidebar Day Eight (incl Universal audio discussion)

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Good cop is taking her to the very edge of her cold heartedness without her even realizing how incriminating this is.

She is now throwing states where Zanny could be.

Why all the lies about Zanny if Caylee drowned? MO
 
"She's had one cold, and it lasted two days," says Casey.

This brings back memories of some text messages between Casey and AR... "snothead"

Lasted "two" days... can't be crying every "two" seconds (from jail tape)... the previous poster who mentioned the "twos" has me noticing them now too!
 
The jury would never believe a word if Casey takes the stand. They are actually hearing her testify NOW, and they have to know that she lies incessantly.

ITA!!

I can't imagine that after hearing all the lies and how easily she does it, there is any way this jury can believe that she was sexually abused. I can't believe that they aren't smarter than that. That said, I am laughing hysterically because pushing aside any mention of the sexual abuse, this should be SO much worse to the jury than it was to even us. When we first heard these tapes we were sleuthing ZFG and at least hoping that she was telling the truth. The jury is hearing how well she tells all these lies knowing for certain they are lies because they have already admitted the baby was dead a month before this. Priceless.
 
"This just happened. Everything was perfectly fine"
 
In my opinion this is just a slam dunk we all heard this before and this is why we became obsessed with justice for Caylee-the fact that this is being played in court shows that baez is an incompetent defense attny. because there is no coming back from this..

Which might give her an ineffective counsel appeal....I hope it's a slam dunk for His Honor would have no problem if the jury recommends death, he'd give it....JMHO
 
Are these things strong? I've never had one and I really need something strong right now. :great:

Pass me four would ya Momtective - at least I can one up ICA somehow (instead of having three) cause I really need a stiff drink right now.
And it is only 8AM where I am.....:crazy:
 
"She used to say that she loved Caylee that she was such a good kid."

Folks, she is talking about herself when she is talking about Zanny here. Never a sign this would happen, used to say she loved Caylee, that she was a good kid...

If she didn't love Caylee anymore or think she was a good kid, why would she take her?
 
Now they're talking about if she calls home "from work". :waitasec:
 
she's still talking like she had a job . . . .
 
it sounds like she went back to claiming she has a job? am i hearing things? talking about her desk, etc...
 
KBelichWFTV Kathi Belich, WFTV
George and Cindy are in court George is looking in Casey's direction
2 minutes ago
 
When they asked if Zanny would talk about the type of child Caylee was and the type of mother Casey was, Casey said that Zanny would say that she was proud of how "Caylee was being raised" and that Zanny supposedly said this to some of Casey's friends. I hope the jury remembers that Casey's friends who have testified have all said that they never met anyone named Zanny.
 
I have just started following this case closely in the last few day since the trial has started. I have been using Web Sleuth to catch up on the details that I did not know before. (thanks) I guess in some ways, I am hearing this tape like a juror would.

I am shocked at the level of her lies. Even though I have heard many other things the last few days that were eye opening, (I didn't know about the fictional people or made up jobs)..nothing, nothing prepared me for her cold and calculated level of lies that I am hearing now.

She isn't sounding like a person who is afraid or nervous or even delusional to me. She just sounds like a person that is a cold hearted liar that is stubbornly sticking to her lies. It is as if she is determined to wear these officers down much like they are hoping to wear her down. My jaw is literally open at her deceit.

I have noticed she becomes agitated and impatient when they are tearing her lies apart and calling on them. When they act like they are going along with her lies, her voice noticeably softens and she becomes much more compliant. I am sure this is how she operated with her parents in the home when confronted and suspect they learned how to keep the peace in the home by keeping her from getting too agitated.

Thank you for telling us how all of this is sounding to someone not familiar with the case. I pray that the jury is hearing it just as you are, that it's just as vivid and shocking to them and that their feelings are the same as yours.
 
20 minutes earlier ICA admits to no job, LE tells her it is all lies...........and here we are back to all the lies and ICA resumes her lies on cruise control. Oh My God!

Listening to this makes my doubt my sanity.
 
mid way throught he convo she has a job again and her work phone can only save 20 messages at a time.
 
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