2011.06.02 Sidebar Day Eight (incl Universal audio discussion)

[rosepetal1065]

she slipped and said if "she had her car in perfect condition", cleaned it up and said, "in a perfect conditon"

 

[logicalgirl]

Will never forgive herself - will beat herself up everyday!

I'm glad ICA said that because that explains why she spent the day in bed with Tony L the day after little Caylee went "missing".

Uh huh - too distraught to get out of bed.....

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Apologizes for giving them the run-around.

 

[Softail]

This part is making me think that she thought they were just going to let her go. Saying, "I've learned so much from this."

Unreal.

 

[strawberry]

WHen she apologizes for giving them the runarouns, she thought that would be the end of it IMO.

 

[Amity]

The detectives are trying play along w/ her now IMHO

I agree!

And just like the elephant in the room that nobody wants to acknowledge verbally/out loud, I feel in my heart that all of LE, who were involved with this at that time, KNEW the baby was dead.
Maybe nobody in LE said the word "dead", but I think by the time of this interview at Universal, they knew.
But they still had to follow this investigation Hoping against hope they would get a crumb thrown their way of the whereabouts of Precious Caylee....where Casey put her.

 

[darcedarce]

Listen to her mewing at them...Yeah she sounds REALLY scared.

 

[Oakley]

Wow sure looked like she was 'beating herself up every day, running in circles' at Fusion Ultra Lounge participating in the Hot Body Contest and mothering the shot girls, shopping sprees with stolen money at Target, JC Penney, Winn Dixie, Tony's bedroom and kitchen, the tatoo parlor, Wild Wings, 4th of July drinking at the fireworks, Ikea, ---- She was absolutely FRANTIC and stricken with grief!

/sarcasm

She's not crazy. She just drives everyone around her crazy.

 

[Marple]

If I were innocent of murder and the police were questioning me, obviously suspicious that I did something, I would be freaking out. Never would an innocent suspect just sit there and calmly listen to the accusations!

There is NO reason to give LE this run around UNLESS she is guilty of murder.

 

[ami]

Ever hear Ted Bundy's Interviews??? He sound exactly like this...

I would love to hear them - are they archived anywhere online?

 

[MaraSleuth]

"we are not trying to be big scary guys" - there goes Baez's point that she was scared. She definitely does NOT seems scared. She jokes with them like she they are all 'good ole boys'.

 

[mombomb]

Some times she emails ZG. Would it be okay to take your computer and get our forensic guy to track ZG. ICA - I'm okay with that. (ICA back to her expressionless face).

ZG had lived at a house in Andover Lakes for a while - a friend's house, not in ZG's name. Doesn't know the address. Andover Lakes is off of Dean and Curry Ford. Thinks ZG was renting a room there. Names of roommates - Raqelle Farrel and Jennifer Rosa. She never really talked to them. their schedules were completely opposite of mine.

ZG is mixed. Puerto Rican, father black. Lived in New York and Miami and UF.

Went to Valencia about 1.5 years.

Took no medicines when she was growing up.

Caylee does not take meds. Has had one cold in entire life. Pediatrician - Dr. Solma. Nanny never took baby to doctor. Dad came to a couple of visits, mom went to one. Usually just IA and Caylee.

Caylee loved Jay Blanchard park, Lake Underhill. Mom didn't want her to go to JBP because woman was killed there. 2 playgrounds there. Caylee has played at both, liked the bigger one by the YMCA. Last there the end of May. ICA took her in April a couple of times.

What did you do on 6/8? I think I might have been at Tony's and mom took Caylee to Mt. Dora to see her parents. Grandfather is 88 and grandmother is 82 or 83. (ICA still staring at monitor expressionless).

ICA - I have nothing to go off. I have perspective ideas of where she would go. Could be in NY, Jax, Miami. ZG had no children. (Big yawn by YM - hope this case didn't keep him up too late last night).

ZG was fine with her the morning she dropped her off.

ICA would always call or send text during days to make sure everything is okay.

The bad thing is her phone only saves 20 calls at a time and only texts she has received, not sent. Has itemized bills. Put them on zip drive with pictures for YM.

ZG has had at least 3 #s and had 2 phone plans and has lived in a couple of places in Orlando - Andover Lakes, another apartment (Alafaya Club Apartments).

she and ZG have friends who lives at Sawgrass. She doesn't know ZG's friends.

(ICA talking to CM behind JB's back and out of camera view)

Wells - if we find the baby today what is your biggest concern? Honestly, that's all I care about. Who is going to be the next hurdle in your life? It's not my mom. It's going to be proving that to myself every day. My mom already told me she will never forgive me. Even if I had had my car under perfect conditions, what would I do? Drive around in circles. I would never let this happen again. I learned the biggest lesson from all this. I made the biggest mistake I could ever make as a parent.

ICA - I'm sorry I have given you guys the run around (sounding very pleasant). I wish I honestly had more things to help with. Offers up her computer. I'll offer up my computer in a heart beat. Anything that could possibly help. (sounds so very calm and pleasant). The worst part is I have done this to my daughter by allowing her to be with someone else.

 

[the seeker]

OMG...
"Ill offer up my computer"....yeah, I bet....because I think she tried to destroy her computer and what was in it....the blue screen of death and all....

 

[Mendara]

wow the interview ends so friendly back to the mother looking for her child. Detectives even say they were NOT trying to be big bad detectives.

KC giving them a speech about yada yada feeling good about herself getting these guys to bend to her.

 

[momtective]

Hee! Baez squeezing the bridge of his nose. Anacin moment.

Oh I know...and I missed the screen cap. Looked like he was thinking "we are so ****ed!

 

[essies]

Amazing-she still at this point thinks she's going to get away with this "charade"!!

 

[BigFatMommyDog]

Ever hear Ted Bundy's Interviews??? He sound exactly like this...

I'd love to hear more from you about this CN2 - maybe in the psych thread later?

 

[Patience]

Yes I compared them both earlier on the thread. Ted Bundy and KC the same. It is mind blowing.

And Scott Peterson.

 

[Ssejors]

"She used to say that she loved Caylee that she was such a good kid."

Folks, she is talking about herself when she is talking about Zanny here. Never a sign this would happen, used to say she loved Caylee, that she was a good kid...

If she didn't love Caylee anymore or think she was a good kid, why would she take her?

Eidetic


She has ALWAYS been Zanny. In my mind, Zanny was a fictitious woman who was bits and pieces of Casey, blended together into this alter ego that she tells people about. All kinds of info about Zanny is ICA.

used to take her to Jay blanchard park?
Perfect 10? Loved Caylee? (past tense again)


Im too po'ed right now to think of more but im sure there are a million examples of ZANNY = Casey

 

[leesap]

My father hasn't followed this case. Just started watching when trial started and he says there is no evidence so far that she did anything to Caylee. I think he's lost his mind.