2011.06.21 TRIAL Day Twenty-four (Afternoon Session)

[Pattymarie]

I don't think ICA's demeanor is that of a "dissociated sexually abused girl", but speaking as a teacher, it is more like a bored out of her mind student sitting in class, but has nothing to do (i.e. text, doodle, color, etc)

 

[monique]

You are very obviously not Canadian! :floorlaugh:

Sorry....that was in reply to the "I never thought to use duct tape comment.

 

[bobloblaw]

I have never thought of using Duct Tape for anything before this trial. Well I bought me a roll and I am putting it to good use. The wire in my VS Bra made it way thru the fabric, so instead of throwing it out..I Duct Taped it it works beautifully....thanks Casey for the tip!

My son made a wallet out of duct tape. He has a book full of things to make out of duct tape! :woohoo:

 

[sleutherontheside]

There's an area at the courthouse where she could get clothes for free. Specifically for inmates who have no clothes for court.

The organization in Orlando that handles that is called The Mustard Seed.

 

[lemon]

JA is a master of cross exam he is amazing to watch! I missed the first two hours of the afternoon.

I misread JA as JB and thought you were being really sarcastic. :floorlaugh:

 

[katydid23]

Baez= It doesn't matter if the body is skeletonized, it will still generate DNa, correct?

Witness== ummm..well sometimes the condition of the object does affect the out come...

Baez.." But ...an object is just an object, even a skeleton

witness= [confused] um yes...

Baez= You either have Dna or you don't...CORRECT?

witness= [ thinking huh?] answers, " Yes."

 

[chasing.halos]

I :heartbeat: when JA starts out with "Are you telling the jury that....."

 

[wenwe4]

Dr. E w/JB - ideally you want to have match in all low site..only compare profile with this sample...human dna.... for exclusion to exclude someone....you do need to exclude someone? if someone doesn't have 17 in their profile and that shows up....couldn't have done it because it is not in your profile..


Re-cross - JA
what are challenges?

original dna started with restriction ...length poly morph....needed a substantial amount of blood or semen quarter size amount at aleast....pcr approach is standard in most labs...replicatable...as that happened - contamination is higher - more dna ....if you find a speck doesn't mean it relates to the crime - contamination fear is much greater....in this particular case....JA uses DT white paper - if you tested tape in this case...3 possible results might have achieved ...might have found nothing....not inconsistent with tape being placed on child prior to decomp....that is possible.....other possible result is might have found Caylee dna on tape...strong evidence tape placed over mouth before decomp...unknown profile on the tape absolutely no way to know if unknown dna involved in crime...he was told tape was dna related....if unknown result noone knew anything bout - don't know if related to the crime or some decomtamination...low copy dna makes it more difficult...all crime scene examiners all working on crime scenes working in lab has to have obtain profile - verify - exclude any the co-workers contaminated - more likely in some crime related way....never know if someone had contact with their wife and transferred ....low copy number is more common...type of lab tech had touch from his wife - secondary transfer - won't say not possible - but less likely than direct contact...we work on we regularly find dna from lab techs....never know if contamination or not if low profile copy dna and don't know where came from - possible..

pull up slide with JB and the jacket all that...exhibit by defense #

first object top left - not skeletonized remains....hand not skeletonized....jacket not assoc. with skeletonized remains.....

none of these 3 associated with fully skeletonized remains...

redirect- JB
based on what you do...these whether skeletonized remains have no bearing on whether get dna....these panties not testing skeleton you are testing the item...skeletonized have no bearing for the item...the item is more important that skeletonization of the body...

Mr Ashton 3 scenario - leave out a 4th important scenario - # 4 duct tape not wrapped around Caylee mouth - that is correct - you have likely seen some dna based on scenario SA presented...at least in beginning there would be dna....

JA asked bout dna contaminiation - when find perp.s dna you find it match the suspects or perp - you have never gone into court and said "you just cannot ever know" ....

final decision is up to judge and jury....never go farther than hypothesis occurring during the crime or pulling down panties....evidence there or not....match or doesn't match would support hypothessis - dna there or not...

JA up are you telling jury the proximity of tape to rottin flesh that the dna increase decompse as well...dna on tape also could be decomposed...no further questions...sorry thought you were done...

chance of degredation smaller....outside is bad for dna...only need a couple of cells to obtain alleals or profiles...it does make a difference of dna is next to decomposing flesh - it does make a difference - IMO Yes!

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[Oakley]

MagpieFromHinky Pamela
Baez can't formulate a proper question. His own witness needs him to restate & clarify
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[wvjules]

This is like watching a pissing match.

 

[Marina2]

re-re-re- direct? lol

 

[FaerieB]

ABCAshleigh Ashleigh Banfield
Saw the FBI chemist Rickenbach waiting in the hallway outside court in #caseyanthony .He testified 4 prosec that chloroform in trunk was low

 

[KenoshaKid]

Cameraman focusing on the word "Caylee" on the jPad.

 

[Mendara]

JA often uses Caylee instead of Victim.

 

[liltexans]

Saw the FBI chemist Rickenbach waiting in the hallway outside court in #caseyanthony .He testified 4 prosec that chloroform in trunk was low
by abcashleigh via twitter at 2:41 PM

 

[Tipstaff]

The father (John Morgan) represented Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez in her civil suit and his son (Matthew Morgan) is now representing Vasco Thompson. The prior Governor of Florida, Charlie Crist now works for the law firm as well. VERY prestigious firm in Florida.

Wondering who Ultama Morgan will be representing next?

 

[suzihawk]

At least the camera guy gets it. As he tightens in on Caylee's name on the jPad.

 

[momtective]

YAY...Our man Jeff got what he needed and got outta there! Love it!

 

[azscr4mbl3r]

Mr. E's English is so much better than JB's he has to ask JB to repeat what he said... often. JA and Mr.E seem to understand each other perfectly.... weird...I suppose it has to do with their DNA expertise as much as it does with proper grammer

 

[deelytful1]

Saw the FBI chemist Rickenbach waiting in the hallway outside court in #caseyanthony .He testified 4 prosec that chloroform in trunk was low

by abcashleigh via twitter at 3:41 PM