2016.01.07 Docs - Batch 3 Photos *WARNING - GRAPHIC*

[FightTheOstrich]

How many hours were the dogs left alone without food, potty?
dogs might lick their paws and groom themselves by licking.

also I pray TS was deceased before the blows to her head.............

The Siever's have a dog door. BS visited the house on Sunday so the animals should have been okay. The pool was open. Not an ideal source of water but plenty of animals drink it.

A droplet of blood dries in roughly an hour. Of course a crime scene where blood might pool is different than a droplet of blood.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22752750

Assuming the the dogs (and cat too) may have cleaned themselves, and perhaps TS and the crime scene. This could account for the lack of dog/cat tracks throughout the home.

The color of the tile might be masking the tracks too. White tile for example probably would have revealed more details in the images we're viewing.

 

[Scout]

The Siever's have a dog door. BS visited the house on Sunday so the animals should have been okay. The pool was open. Not an ideal source of water but plenty of animals drink it.

A droplet of blood dries in roughly an hour. Of course a crime scene where blood might pool is different than a droplet of blood.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22752750

Assuming the the dogs (and cat too) may have cleaned themselves, and perhaps TS and the crime scene. This could account for the lack of dog/cat tracks throughout the home.

The color of the tile might be masking the tracks too. White tile for example probably would have revealed more details in the images we're viewing.

I have seen some images that show shoe impressions in blood and other impressions in blood. So far I haven't noticed any that appear to be paw impressions.

 

[SoBeCzar]

Pic 21 is of a childs handwriting of "mom + dad". It makes me think of a child worried their parents would break up and they want them to stay together. I think there was enough discord that the children knew their parents were having real problems.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8Z1FXMUNjcXJnNDA/view?pref=2&pli=1

 

[passionflower]

The Siever's have a dog door. BS visited the house on Sunday so the animals should have been okay. The pool was open. Not an ideal source of water but plenty of animals drink it.

A droplet of blood dries in roughly an hour. Of course a crime scene where blood might pool is different than a droplet of blood.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22752750

Assuming the the dogs (and cat too) may have cleaned themselves, and perhaps TS and the crime scene. This could account for the lack of dog/cat tracks throughout the home.

The color of the tile might be masking the tracks too. White tile for example probably would have revealed more details in the images we're viewing.

thankyou, the dogs could of jumped in pool also. Ours do ........

 

[passionflower]

I remember seeing specific areas that looked to me like two footprints in blood (shoe or boot) in the crime scene. I will go back and see if I can find them and post them here

**Edited to add photos

This is purely speculation, as I am no crime scene investigator. This is just what stood out to me. To me the stains in these areas look more like transfer, vs splatter. Again just my opinion, and I could be totally wrong. The shape of what looks like transfer, to me also looks like the shape of a boot or shoe. I have (crudely) attempted to draw round the pattern to show what I see. Please excuse my drawing, I am not too tech advance yet on my new phone.. The third photo, looks like a partial show print as well... JMO

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very good observation

 

[Legally Bland]

TS Resigned her board position approx 90-120 days prior to her demise. Maybe is was MS that saw the Sievers declining fiscal condition and was asking TS to work more hours to hold off the creditors

I think this is totally plausible, but it did appear TS was also becoming frustrated with Our Mother's Home:
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On July 2, 2015, I made contact with Kathleen Casey of the Broward County Sheriffs Office via phone number (954)831-0225. Kathleen was able to provide all telephone conversations between BP and Teresa Sievers since February of 2015. I listened to all conversations and heard nothing that would indicate that BP had a bad relationship with Seivers. During conversations, Seivers could be heard talking down about Our Mothers Home and being disgruntled about not being able to openly speak her mind because of being associated with Lee Memorial Health Systems.

#3064 dump 1

BBM

 

[FightTheOstrich]

thankyou, the dogs could of jumped in pool also. Ours do ........

Good point! If they came in from the pool wet and laid down that might account for the areas where the tile almost looks like it was "mopped" or cleaned.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

If JR/CWW had contact with the dogs (I assume they did) then perhaps they forced the dogs to take a swim before they left...

 

[Frigga]

Pic 21 is of a childs handwriting of "mom + dad". It makes me think of a child worried their parents would break up and they want them to stay together. I think there was enough discord that the children knew their parents were having real problems.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8Z1FXMUNjcXJnNDA/view?pref=2&pli=1

I thought the exact same thing when I saw that. It was odd, IMO, my children will doodle stuff like that about each other or their friends but not about me and my husband.

 

[Helper9693]

It seems like there is a lack of foot prints for a big struggle. I haven't spent much time looking at crime scene photos of any kind though. So this is all new to me.
Of course in my mind I want to believe she was hit once in the head and knocked out so she didn't feel the rest.

 

[SeesSeas]

I remember seeing specific areas that looked to me like two footprints in blood (shoe or boot) in the crime scene. I will go back and see if I can find them and post them here

**Edited to add photos

This is purely speculation, as I am no crime scene investigator. This is just what stood out to me. To me the stains in these areas look more like transfer, vs splatter. Again just my opinion, and I could be totally wrong. The shape of what looks like transfer, to me also looks like the shape of a boot or shoe. I have (crudely) attempted to draw round the pattern to show what I see. Please excuse my drawing, I am not too tech advance yet on my new phone.. The third photo, looks like a partial show print as well... JMO

I don't think those stains are from boot or shoe or foot. I think they are Teresa's legs.
I am referring to BATES 29358 - 29362
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8Q00wSkNndkpHQ0k/view?pref=2&pli=1

 

[Dmacky]

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Not sure, but if they had something like this over their shoes...could they have wrapped their shoes in towels? Would either method result in the lack of a boot imprint? The only way I could see this working is if they sorted of skated over the floor. My head is spinning.:scared:

ETA: Did anyone catch any bloody paw prints? How did the dogs avoid stepping in the blood if they were close to TS's body?

I am remembering JR's supervisor's interview. JR worked around hazardous substances and to keep him from "contamination" he had access to several things he would need for this bloody attack. Jumpsuit, latex gloves and SHOE COVERS. ***I also found this article that talks about what Surgeons wear while operating. I remember them buying water shoes at Walmart, flushable wet wipes, 30 gallon trash bags, a lock pick set, black shoes, water shoes and black towels


From article below:
The operating theater can be a messy/bloody/gutsy place. Surgeons often wear waterproof boots as a protective measure from contamination with blood, puss, amniotic fluid etc.
***http://www.theapprenticedoctor.com/the-protective-clothing-surgeons-wear/

After detectives executed a search warrant at Wright’s residence, Wright contacted Rodgers “in a frantic state” and told him about the search.

“With this, Rodgers became uneasy and his demeanor completely changed,” the documents said. “Rodgers then retrieved Shomaker’s Fort Myers Beach shirt and the black shoes, wrapped them in a towel and threw them in the community dumpster.”
http://www.winknews.com/2015/12/01/sievers-husbands-involvement-suspected-in-wifes-murder/

* also in Taylor's police interview she went on and on about the boots JR bought. ( kinda dressy on the bottoms) I can't access her statement right now, I am on a phone...Can someone find it for me?

* I am thinking he bought boots AND water shoes. Both are suggested in the Link above about surgeons protective clothing.

Sorry for any mistakes, I cannot proof read before posting.

 

[Frigga]

I don't think those stains are from boot or shoe or foot. I think they are Teresa's legs.
I am referring to BATES 29358 - 29362
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8Q00wSkNndkpHQ0k/view?pref=2&pli=1

That's what I saw too. Her thighs to be specific, down to her knees.

 

[jtate0702]

I don't think those stains are from boot or shoe or foot. I think they are Teresa's legs.
I am referring to BATES 29358 - 29362
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8Q00wSkNndkpHQ0k/view?pref=2&pli=1

Oh wow. I had never seen those photos. Poor Teresa. I think you are right, the marks on your photos are from TS'S legs. The photos from my post are of a different area. Maybe directly beside the area that you are referencing. If you look closely, LE has numbered the tiles in the kitchen. Yours are D5 and E5, the ones I referenced are around D8, E8 etc

 

[msboo]

That's what I saw too. Her thighs to be specific, down to her knees.

Agree, my first thought when I saw this.

 

[Dmacky]

So many crime photos we see prints made by shoes boots being made like in garage.......LE must be keeping that close to the vest or is this part of staging?
In the garment found by the road with blue latex gloves, did LE ever state or show how much blood was found on it?
Was there only 1 garment found? 1 pair of gloves?

Unfortunately, they were thrown out on July 12. They were not recovered until closer to the end of August. They were out in the elements for over a month...:waitasec: blood DOES stain, sooo :thinking:

 

[lstiff]

Anyone wonder why there was a blood covered scarf? It was the end of June in S Florida and she was not wearing it in the airport photo. I'll have to go back and find the Bates # but it is the one with the earrings and clothing.

 

[irishchook]

Anyone wonder why there was a blood covered scarf? It was the end of June in S Florida and she was not wearing it in the airport photo. I'll have to go back and find the Bates # but it is the one with the earrings and clothing.

I was wondering the same as she is not wearing one in the airport photo.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8TjdpMlRTOTVJNlE/view

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[Frigga]

This case really is getting weirder and weirder.

 

[Dmacky]

I was wondering the same as she is not wearing one in the airport photo.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B717FUtKwdU8TjdpMlRTOTVJNlE/view

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I was wondering the same thing! Do you think it's possible that the murderers found it in the Siever household and (h.a.r.d to type....strangled her with it first and then the other strikes on the head? Did they still have it around her neck to pull her, then leave it there to help catch blood. Sorry...I really am. It was very hard to imagine in my head and even harder to say.
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