4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 74

[U.N. Known]

Wouldn't your wallet go with you when you're arrested, and be kept with personal effects while held at the jail? I don't know, but it seems like your current ID, medical cards, cards for purchases, stuff kept in a wallet, and clothese, shoes, jacket, would be kept with your belongings at the correctional facility, and be given to you as needed or when you get out. Maybe the cards found at his parents house that were loose are not current or are fake or stolen? jmo

He wouldn't have needed the wallet when he was arrested. If he had it, it should be on the list of personal property he was wearing/had when he was arrested.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Sorry, I meant that's not what it says on the list. If we're sticking to what it says on the list, that isn't it. JMO.

Oh well, I deleted my post because it seems like it's unclear and I misunderstood, and the handwriting is... "not on the wall" ; )

 

[U.N. Known]

Snipped for focus.

I'm going to repost from the previous thread why I don't think the word is curls (2 reasons).

(1) Whoever wrote that makes their a's look like u's. (Look at the words Columbia, navy, man's, & drawing (there are more examples in the list, I captured a small section)).

(2) It's obviously not curls, as so many have pointed out, as there are 6 characters in that word, not 5, so it can't be curls IMO.

So... has anyone tried playing Wordle with the 6 letters using an a as the 2nd character? While I'm not convinced it's not a 'u', it may definitely be an 'a'. I'm more apt to think an 'a' over a 'u'.

4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 73

My guess is marijuana. I thought it might be Kratom but it's more of a green powder than a leafy product. Mostly because it can be brewed as tea and I don't picture health conscious BK smoking anything. Kratom is popular and legal in Washington. It has several uses but one antecdotal use is...

www.websleuths.com

Whoever's slop handwriting that is needs to be reassigned. It seems that a list like this is an important part of the process. For everyone's sake, I hope someone else typed the list while checking the items into evidence.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

Huh? That's not what it says on the list.

I rest my case There was unclear writing on the list that some interpreted as 6 curls inside glove which later *most* people believe says 'cards' and maybe not '6' and that 'glove' could mean a 'card glove' ie a little wallet thing, or also in the glove box of the car. I guess unless LE verify then it's up to debate but personally, I'm satisfied with the notion that there's no hair anywhere.

 

[Twistinginthewind]

He wouldn't have needed the wallet when he was arrested. If he had it, it should be on the list of personal property he was wearing/had when he was arrested.

Right, that was my point when responding to OP's question about what we think may have happened to his wallet since it was not on the Search Warrant List of Items collected list. I suggested it could be with his personal property he had on him when arrested, haven't seen that list of items and not sure it would be public. JMO

 

[Gemmie]

Whoever's slop handwriting that is needs to be reassigned. It seems that a list like this is an important part of the process. For everyone's sake, I hope someone else typed the list while checking the items into evidence.

Funny you should bring that up. That handwriting is SOOOO bad (How bad is it?) that I wondered what would happen if that person had an accident and wasn't around to decipher his handwriting for others. I also wondered if they can read their own handwriting! And no, I'm not being a smart aleck because I've been unable to read my own handwriting when I rush (and I've been told I have very nice handwriting. Just not when I rush. lol)

Due to that, I don't understand why it has to be written in this day and age. Typing would be better, along with using spellcheck, and then hit the print button! Is that too much to ask?? We can send a man to the moon but our LE are still using paper and pen...

 

[Twistinginthewind]

Funny you should bring that up. That handwriting is SOOOO bad (How bad is it?) that I wondered what would happen if that person had an accident and wasn't around to decipher his handwriting for others. I also wondered if they can read their own handwriting! And no I'm not being a smart aleck because I've been unable to read my own handwriting when I rush (and I've been told I have very nice handwriting. Just not when I rush. lol)

Due to that, I don't understand why it has to be written in this day and age. Typing would be better, along with using spellcheck, and then hit the print button! Is that too much to ask?? We can send a man to the moon but our LE are still using paper and pen...

A totally agree the handwriting needs serious improvement! I would like to explain, though, in certain professions (like mine, which is not related to LE but does have legally enforceable & recordable components) whenever you are out in "the field" or "onsite" (instead of "in the office") doing work that will be shared with others and will become part of the record you are required to write down all notes and observations:

In blue ink pen only (because it looks different from black ink that can be altered to look like original writing when black & white copies or noncolor scans are made!), and

In a "bound" book or notebook (the kind that has a hard cover and the pages are sewn in place, that can't have any of the numbered pages torn out or shuffled around).

The hand written notes in blue ink in the bound book or notebook then becomes part of the legal record for the project, and has to be signed off on by the note taker and their supervisor/manager, and that original has to remain untouched.

So "The List" could be handwritten for similar reasons, and PA LE field officers don't have a stenographer or voice dictation device approved for use "out in the field", so the original is what it is.

That said, I'm sure the handwritten list was eventually transcribed/typed up and "QC'd" as we call it (Quality Control Reviewed for accuracy) before being passed on for widespread use by LE, but perhaps to preserve the integrity of the original list of items, LE shared the field original.

JMOO

 

[Helechawagirl]

Good question. Those are possibilities that make sense. I'm guessing it was something like that -- furniture or a safe or some built in hiding place (under floorboards, that kind of thing) that was the property of his parents and he used to store things he wanted to keep hidden. So it was encountered during the search, but wasn't an item to be collected and/or was parental property, not BK's. JMO

Or not on the search warrant?

 

[Helechawagirl]

A totally agree the handwriting needs serious improvement! I would like to explain, though, in certain professions (like mine, which is not related to LE but does have legally enforceable & recordable components) whenever you are out in "the field" or "onsite" (instead of "in the office") doing work that will be shared with others and will become part of the record you are required to write down all notes and observations:

In blue ink pen only (because it looks different from black ink that can be altered to look like original writing when black & white copies or noncolor scans are made!), and

In a "bound" book or notebook (the kind that has a hard cover and the pages are sewn in place, that can't have any of the numbered pages torn out or shuffled around).

The hand written notes in blue ink in the bound book or notebook then becomes part of the legal record for the project, and has to be signed off on by the note taker and their supervisor/manager, and that original has to remain untouched.

So "The List" could be handwritten for similar reasons, and PA LE field officers don't have a stenographer or voice dictation device approved for use "out in the field", so the original is what it is.

That said, I'm sure the handwritten list was eventually transcribed/typed up and "QC'd" as we call it (Quality Control Reviewed for accuracy) before being passed on for widespread use by LE, but perhaps to preserve the integrity of the original list of items, LE shared the field original.

JMOO

Perhaps LE took guilty pleasure in making it hard to decipher—“let’s give those sleuths something to chew on.” jMO

 

[Sundog]

A totally agree the handwriting needs serious improvement! I would like to explain, though, in certain professions (like mine, which is not related to LE but does have legally enforceable & recordable components) whenever you are out in "the field" or "onsite" (instead of "in the office") doing work that will be shared with others and will become part of the record you are required to write down all notes and observations:

In blue ink pen only (because it looks different from black ink that can be altered to look like original writing when black & white copies or noncolor scans are made!), and

In a "bound" book or notebook (the kind that has a hard cover and the pages are sewn in place, that can't have any of the numbered pages torn out or shuffled around).

The hand written notes in blue ink in the bound book or notebook then becomes part of the legal record for the project, and has to be signed off on by the note taker and their supervisor/manager, and that original has to remain untouched.

So "The List" could be handwritten for similar reasons, and PA LE field officers don't have a stenographer or voice dictation device approved for use "out in the field", so the original is what it is.

That said, I'm sure the handwritten list was eventually transcribed/typed up and "QC'd" as we call it (Quality Control Reviewed for accuracy) before being passed on for widespread use by LE, but perhaps to preserve the integrity of the original list of items, LE shared the field original.

JMOO

I also wonder if LE has to give a copy of the list of items seized to the homeowners who were not arrested before LE leave the scene.

 

[U.N. Known]

Right, that was my point when responding to OP's question about what we think may have happened to his wallet since it was not on the Search Warrant List of Items collected list. I suggested it could be with his personal property he had on him when arrested, haven't seen that list of items and not sure it would be public. JMO

Someone up thread said the wallet we see when he was pulled over in IN could have been a card wallet--just slots for cards. Another made a connection to the card wallet and the unknown "curls." Perhaps that unidentified scribble is about BKs "wallet." that was in his car or in some sort of tray in his room. There are those little boxes men use on dressers to hold their wallets, rings, keys, etc.

It's a stretch...

 

[Helechawagirl]

I rest my case There was unclear writing on the list that some interpreted as 6 curls inside glove which later *most* people believe says 'cards' and maybe not '6' and that 'glove' could mean a 'card glove' ie a little wallet thing, or also in the glove box of the car. I guess unless LE verify then it's up to debate but personally, I'm satisfied with the notion that there's no hair anywhere.

But they did collect fibers.

 

[Sundog]

Or not on the search warrant?

I would think it would have to be covered by the search warrant/fall within its parameters.

 

[jellybeanz]

What's going on???

 

[Gemmie]

Perhaps LE took guilty pleasure in making it hard to decipher—“let’s give those sleuths something to chew on.” jMO

Well, a "pink zipper" and "10 curls" makes me think you're onto something there.

 

[Cool Cats]

Idaho murders: Bryan Kohberger’s public defender says she never met victim Xana Kernodle's mother​

Idaho murders: Bryan Kohberger’s public defender says she never met victim Xana Kernodle's mother

Idaho murder suspect Bryan Kohberger agreed to keep Anne Taylor as his public defender after she explained there was no conflict with previous cases involving Xana Kernodle's mother.

www.yahoo.com

Public defender Anne Taylor told Latah County Magistrate Judge Megan Marshall during a secret court hearing in late January that she has never met murder victim Xana Kernodle's mother and has never provided her legal advice.

In the secret January court hearing, Taylor explained to the judge that because she is the chief public defender for Kootenai County, her name appears on nearly all the letterhead for the Kootenai County Public Defender's Office, whether she is the acting attorney or not.

She said she had no contact or relationship with Cara Kernodle, and never met her or provided her with any legal advice regarding the felony drug case or a 2017 misdemeanor case.

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

What's going on???

A lot.

What do you mean?

 

[gremlin444]

Another interpretation on note from Bryan from Montana--it could even be from when he was younger if he one of his rounds of drug rehab was in Montana. There are ton of drug rehab residential facilities out there, many include a wilderness/nature aspect to them (might appeal to a young health focused Bryan), and rehab is often cheaper in states like Montana than other states (short term residential therapeutic mental health facilities are cheaper in Montana than they are in other states, too). If that is the case, it could be a note sent back to his parents or a note that he wrote to himself as part of his rehab program there.

 

[WingsOverTX]

Funny you should bring that up. That handwriting is SOOOO bad (How bad is it?) that I wondered what would happen if that person had an accident and wasn't around to decipher his handwriting for others. I also wondered if they can read their own handwriting! And no, I'm not being a smart aleck because I've been unable to read my own handwriting when I rush (and I've been told I have very nice handwriting. Just not when I rush. lol)

Due to that, I don't understand why it has to be written in this day and age. Typing would be better, along with using spellcheck, and then hit the print button! Is that too much to ask?? We can send a man to the moon but our LE are still using paper and pen...

Obfuscation, my dear Watson!

 

[Ghostwheel]

If it says ID cards inside glove inside box, and assuming the writer is not from some country where glove means wallet, why would a person put ID cards, or 10 cards, inside a glove? Forget the box, why put cards in a glove? Why put anything in a glove?

To hide it. To keep multiple things together and you didn't have any extra pink zipper or green zipper or blue zipper or whatever zipper baggies. To keep with you when you are hiking or exercising (I have a set of gloves with a compartment for ID cards, believe it or not). Other ideas?