4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #95

[Honeybirdette]

I cannot find the original post/link where it mentions the knife that was recovered by LE. IIRC it was a "Taylor Cutlery" knife that was listed among the items seized from the Kohberger home.

I've been wondering if the different injuries sustained by the victims was partly due to more than one knife having been used at the scene. Something tells me that these types of people would bring more than one knife.

Here is one of the earlier posts listing the items including the Taylor knife: (there is a link to the article within the post)

4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered - Bryan Kohberger Arrested - Moscow # 73

Regarding how many BK "intended" to kill. While he may have focused his obsession on one young woman (I'm not convinced yet), he knew the house was home to multiple people with potential overnight guests. I believe he wanted to kill as many people as possible that night. You can't enter a home...

www.websleuths.com

Knife, gun and ammunition seized from Bryan Kohberger's home

The full list of items seized by Pennsylvania police from Bryan Kohberger's parents' house was revealed on Thursday and includes a knife, gun, ammunition and a 'criminal psychology book'.

www.google.com

It just said “knife” and it was first on the list. Which I found relevant, (that it was number 1) but I could be looking into that too much.

 

[Sundog]

My parents were out of town and my brother misplaced his key to the deadbolts, the sliding door had a broomstick in place. He and his friends just removed the entire sliding glass doors. It took the guys less than 30 minutes to remove it and put it back in place. My parents never knew.

The simple installation of a security pin on siding glass patio doors will take care of the ability to remove the door from its track. That, along with a secure stick that stops the door from being opened, provides the needed security.

 

[whiterhino]

Concerning taking a memento from the crime scene I am sure it wouldn't be the knife.

Look how meticulous BK was in not leaving any digital evidence to connect him to the victims. I do not know what this means exactly, but I do not believe he did not see their social media. No connection because he apparently did not engage with them.

And no blood in his car or apartment means he planned it in my opinion. Unplanned with no plastic down would be impossible to not leave trace blood.

So a killer this focused on these evidence details would not hang onto his knife, would not keep anything in his car or apartment that links to the crime scene.

He had the trophy he longed for I am sure. Front page news and countless photos and news and social media coverage. Guessing games in the media about who did it? Where is the knife? How did the killer get in? House targeted or victims targeted?

He was able to sit back and revel in his knowledge of the case, he knew more than the police, probally felt some comeuppance for being rejected from LE programs.

Kicked out of...

His HS vocational LE program
Not getting an internship with Moscow police (I believe he did not get selected for that)
Kicked out of his PHD program that focused on criminals. The wheels were turning on kicking him out of his teaching PHD program before he committed multiple homicides.

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RBBM

Agree, IMO a memento would be something more personal belonging to the victim.

I don't see many posts disagreeing or arguing that this crime was not planned. It's very likely that plastic was put down before hand. There was probably a lot of prep involved. Just look at LISK/GB4 case, the file found on RH computer.

The underlined part: It's funny because I see this as something a narcissist would do. Infamy. BK strikes me as more of a covert narcissist than the type who would want attention, infamy etc.

Yes, there were several precipitating factors that could've sent BK over the edge. Many not so good things were happening within his work/academic life and his personal life, career path etc were not taking off as he probably expected.

The fact that he applied to the Moscow PD prior to committing the crimes is intriguing though. There is something very Ed Kemper/GSSK about BK IMO. FWIW.

 

[PinkParis2052]

Concerning taking a memento from the crime scene I am sure it wouldn't be the knife.

Look how meticulous BK was in not leaving any digital evidence to connect him to the victims. I do not know what this means exactly, but I do not believe he did not see their social media. No connection because he apparently did not engage with them.

And no blood in his car or apartment means he planned it in my opinion. Unplanned with no plastic down would be impossible to not leave trace blood.

So a killer this focused on these evidence details would not hang onto his knife, would not keep anything in his car or apartment that links to the crime scene.

He had the trophy he longed for I am sure. Front page news and countless photos and news and social media coverage. Guessing games in the media about who did it? Where is the knife? How did the killer get in? House targeted or victims targeted?

He was able to sit back and revel in his knowledge of the case, he knew more than the police, probally felt some comeuppance for being rejected from LE programs.

Kicked out of...

His HS vocational LE program
Not getting an internship with Moscow police (I believe he did not get selected for that)
Kicked out of his PHD program that focused on criminals. The wheels were turning on kicking him out of his teaching PHD program before he committed multiple homicides.

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I've been looking for some proof that he applied at Moscow PD, I'll keep looking.

but I've seen confirmation that he applied at Pullman PD for an internship but didn't get it (possibly)

Here's a quote from an article by ABC news - "Police said they learned Kohberger applied for an internship with the Pullman police in the fall of 2022, and in an essay he said he wanted to help "rural law enforcement agencies with how to better collect and analyze technological data in public safety operations," the affidavit said."

here's a link to the source:

Idaho murders: Roommate saw killer in mask leaving the house, docs say

Bryan Kohberger, the 28-year-old suspect in the University of Idaho murders, has arrived back in Idaho to face charges.

abcnews.go.com

 

[Cool Cats]

I've been looking for some proof that he applied at Moscow PD, I'll keep looking.

but I've seen confirmation that he applied at Pullman PD for an internship but didn't get it (possibly)

Here's a quote from an article by ABC news - "Police said they learned Kohberger applied for an internship with the Pullman police in the fall of 2022, and in an essay he said he wanted to help "rural law enforcement agencies with how to better collect and analyze technological data in public safety operations," the affidavit said."

here's a link to the source:

Idaho murders: Roommate saw killer in mask leaving the house, docs say

Bryan Kohberger, the 28-year-old suspect in the University of Idaho murders, has arrived back in Idaho to face charges.

abcnews.go.com

Typo - it was Pullman, thanks for catching that

 

[whiterhino]

I've been looking for some proof that he applied at Moscow PD, I'll keep looking.

but I've seen confirmation that he applied at Pullman PD for an internship but didn't get it (possibly)

Here's a quote from an article by ABC news - "Police said they learned Kohberger applied for an internship with the Pullman police in the fall of 2022, and in an essay he said he wanted to help "rural law enforcement agencies with how to better collect and analyze technological data in public safety operations," the affidavit said."

here's a link to the source:

Idaho murders: Roommate saw killer in mask leaving the house, docs say

Bryan Kohberger, the 28-year-old suspect in the University of Idaho murders, has arrived back in Idaho to face charges.

abcnews.go.com

Right! It wasn't Moscow PD it was Pullman. Disregard my comment above, way off.

 

[Cool Cats]

Knife, gun and ammunition seized from Bryan Kohberger's home

The full list of items seized by Pennsylvania police from Bryan Kohberger's parents' house was revealed on Thursday and includes a knife, gun, ammunition and a 'criminal psychology book'.

www.google.com

It just said “knife” and it was first on the list. Which I found relevant, (that it was number 1) but I could be looking into that too much.

They number evidence as they find it...#1 #2 #3 #4 etc.......

But my guess is the first thing they looked for was knives.

2 Cents

 

[whiterhino]

Knife, gun and ammunition seized from Bryan Kohberger's home

The full list of items seized by Pennsylvania police from Bryan Kohberger's parents' house was revealed on Thursday and includes a knife, gun, ammunition and a 'criminal psychology book'.

www.google.com

It just said “knife” and it was first on the list. Which I found relevant, (that it was number 1) but I could be looking into that too much.

I just recall a lot of discussion about the brand "Taylor Cutlery" and that another knife had been recovered by LE.

FWIW whatever LE recovered is probably not the weapon used as I am certain we'd have known about it by now. It would be the main point of discussion instead of the sheath IMHO.

 

[Honeybirdette]

I just recall a lot of discussion about the brand "Taylor Cutlery" and that another knife had been recovered by LE.

FWIW whatever LE recovered is probably not the weapon used as I am certain we'd have known about it by now. It would be the main point of discussion instead of the sheath IMHO.

Well there is a gag order so that information wouldn’t be released

 

[girlhasnoname]

Concerning taking a memento from the crime scene I am sure it wouldn't be the knife.

Look how meticulous BK was in not leaving any digital evidence to connect him to the victims. I do not know what this means exactly, but I do not believe he did not see their social media. No connection because he apparently did not engage with them.

And no blood in his car or apartment means he planned it in my opinion. Unplanned with no plastic down would be impossible to not leave trace blood.

So a killer this focused on these evidence details would not hang onto his knife, would not keep anything in his car or apartment that links to the crime scene.

He had the trophy he longed for I am sure. Front page news and countless photos and news and social media coverage. Guessing games in the media about who did it? Where is the knife? How did the killer get in? House targeted or victims targeted?

He was able to sit back and revel in his knowledge of the case, he knew more than the police, probally felt some comeuppance for being rejected from LE programs.

Kicked out of...

His HS vocational LE program
Not getting an internship with Moscow police (I believe he did not get selected for that)
Kicked out of his PHD program that focused on criminals. The wheels were turning on kicking him out of his teaching PHD program before he committed multiple homicides.

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An 'injustice collector' along with some form of serious mental illness. IMO

 

[PinkParis2052]

I just recall a lot of discussion about the brand "Taylor Cutlery" and that another knife had been recovered by LE.

FWIW whatever LE recovered is probably not the weapon used as I am certain we'd have known about it by now. It would be the main point of discussion instead of the sheath IMHO.

I agree with this and IMO, I think that the prosecution would have offered a plea deal to the suspect if the weapon used was located.

Well there is a gag order so that information wouldn’t be released

That's true but there isn't a gag order in the court hearings but they still limit what details they discuss when these hearings are open to the public. Also there isn't a gag order over the court documents that are not under seal but both sides still seem to limit what details that they discuss in those unsealed court documents.

 

[Boxer]

I agree with this and IMO, I think that the prosecution would have offered a plea deal to the suspect if the weapon used was located. T

That's true but there isn't a gag order in the court hearings but they still limit what details they discuss when these hearings are open to the public. Also there isn't a gag order over the court documents that are not under seal but both sides still seem to limit what details that they discuss in those unsealed court documents.

If the knife taken on the search warrant was linked to the killing in any way, MOO AT would be fighting the legality of the search tooth and nail.

 

[PinkParis2052]

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[Megnut]

An 'injustice collector' along with some form of serious mental illness. IMO

And a recombinant alphabet of personality disorders.

Resistant to... socialization.

JMO

 

[katydid23]

I remember in the video where the roommates were pretending to be each other, the one pretending to be Xana was asking the others if they could have a party. So, to me, IMO, it seems they did ask each other.

But that doesn't mean they'd always ask each other if they were going to have a late night 'friend' over for a visit. I'm sure they didn't check with all the roommates in case of a booty call. IMO

 

[10ofRods]

Right! It wasn't Moscow PD it was Pullman. Disregard my comment above, way off.

Similar impact to your thoughtful argument, though. He wanted to be on the inside of LE, in some way.

He also tried out for some uniformed club or extra-curricular in high school - IIRC, that went south for him too. He apparently flourished in online-only classes. He was embroiled in several separate conflicts at WSU and had the most unusual outcome (being fired from his TA position - I've seen some really unethical TA's in my time, but none of them were fired; of course, things are a little stricter now, but usually, the candidate can shape up or apologize profusely enough to get another chance; but when the altercation is with the grad program supervisor/mentor/professor, that's not good).

IMO, he purchased a military-style knife for the same reason (to appear to be an authority or to feel like one). Shades of Kemper and DeAngelo. Even reminds me of that shopping mall "security guard - self-employed" who was a security company of just one person, went around armed, and recently shot a teenager to death.

 

[Cool Cats]

Wrong thread

 

[PinkParis2052]

If the knife taken on the search warrant was linked to the killing in any way, MOO AT would be fighting the legality of the search tooth and nail.

which also explains why the defense able to make the claim that there is no connection between the victims and their client which the prosecution has never pushed back on this claim still to this day, in either in court hearings or in court documents.

 

[Boxer]

which also explains why the defense able to make the claim that there is no connection between the victims and their client which the prosecution has never pushed back on this claim still to this day, in either in court hearings or in court documents.

DNA on the sheath is a connection, MOO so the prosecution is just not answering ATs standard media bite geared arguments.

 

[PinkParis2052]

DNA on the sheath is a connection, MOO so the prosecution is just not answering ATs standard media bite geared arguments.

But isn't the DNA - touch dna or trace dna?