4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #95

[sunspun]

When one inmate named Tyson hollered 'bit**!' at Kohberger he barely flinched, turning toward him with a menacing stare without breaking stride as he proceeded down the hall, according to one inmate who watched it happen.

I have to think he wouldn't be so "menacing" toward other inmates if he were having to live directly amongst and with them (gen pop instead of solitary).

 

[Megnut]

I have to think he wouldn't be so "menacing" toward other inmates if he were having to live directly amongst and with them (gen pop instead of solitary).

I don't think he's acting any particular way. His stare, nstural to him, is awkward and easily misinterpreted. As hostile or devoid... aggressive, unfriendly...

He's probably thinking about the sound his shoes make. He lives in his head most of the time IMO.

And that's okay so long as his head stays behind bars.

JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

Yeah, it's got to be unnerving for others incarcerated with him.

A lot of them will be frequent flyers, maybe with violence in their rap sheet, but I doubt there would be many, if any, who are true sociopaths and wannabe serial killers, which is what I believe BK to be.

He doesn't seem to be trying to make nice or hide it. I wonder if it feels like freedom to him, for all that he's in a literal cage.

MOO

I think he is desperate to get back on the internet which won't happen. Instead he can pay for tablet movies, limited email and video visits with anyone left who will talk to him. How does he explain to his family about his DNA?

The octillion amount ...

DNA is strong so be interesting to see what evidence AT can come up with to explain it to jurors ... She should have a 2nd game plan when her first evaporates.

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[Megnut]

I think he is desperate to get back on the internet which won't happen. Instead he can pay for tablet movies, limited email and video visits with anyone left who will talk to him. How does he explain to his family about his DNA?

The octillion amount ...

DNA is strong so be interesting to see what evidence AT can come up with to explain it to jurors ... She should have a 2nd game plan when her first evaporates.

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If he's talking to family, I bet it's a polite exchange. Family news. Niceties. Probably have a long history of trying not to poke or provoke.

Granted a different kind but they are victims too.

Once he got into the real world, he didn't know how to pump his own brakes. Or he just didn't want to stop himself anymore.

He betrayed them too.

JMO

 

[Cool Cats]

If he's talking to family, I bet it's a polite exchange. Family news. Niceties. Probably have a long history of trying not to poke or provoke.

Granted a different kind but they are victims too.

Once he got into the real world, he didn't know how to pump his own brakes. Or he just didn't want to stop himself anymore.

He betrayed them too.

JMO

It is dangerous to be talking to anyone because what the defendant says can and often is used against the defendant in open court.

One little slip up during a conversation, it can be transcribed for a jury or brought up in pre-trial hearings and/or for sentencing purposes.

Was used against defendants in 3 separate trials I followed.

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[Sundog]

I think he is desperate to get back on the internet which won't happen. Instead he can pay for tablet movies, limited email and video visits with anyone left who will talk to him. How does he explain to his family about his DNA?

The octillion amount ...

DNA is strong so be interesting to see what evidence AT can come up with to explain it to jurors ... She should have a 2nd game plan when her first evaporates.

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I don't think he would discuss the DNA evidence or anything else related to the case with his family on calls/videos, etc., since I think his communications are recorded, IIRC.

 

[fluffypaste]

I'm really having trouble imagining a sequence of events that would result in the sheath being found where it was.

 

[iamshadow21]

I'm really having trouble imagining a sequence of events that would result in the sheath being found where it was.

The perpetrator draws the knife, drops the sheath on the mattress as he moves to attack the girls. Probably the perpetrator ends up kneeling on the bed, possibly even on MM, to attack KG. Anyone who's knelt on a bed with a rigid object knows that it rolls or slides to the lowest point. The sheath slides towards MM and slightly under her as a result of her movements, KG's movement, and the perpetrator's.

MOO

 

[PinkParis2052]

Bryan Kohberger follows his own case in the news from jail

DailyMail.com spoke with current and former inmates as well as jail sources who told of alleged quadruple murderer Bryan Kohberger's behavior behind bars

www.dailymail.co.uk

DailyMail.com spoke with current and former inmates, as well as jail sources. Among the revelations are that Kohberger gets daytime access to a television in his cell and likes to flip on the news to follow coverage of his own case. 'It's really kind of bizarre.'

Separated from other inmates Kohberger meets privately with a local pastor on Sunday. When he is escorted by 2 guards out of his cell and shuffles past other inmates he sometimes faces taunts and shouting.

When one inmate named Tyson hollered 'bit**!' at Kohberger he barely flinched, turning toward him with a menacing stare without breaking stride as he proceeded down the hall, according to one inmate who watched it happen.

'He always has the same expression, or non-expression,' said one inmate, who met with a DailyMail.com reporter in the jail. 'He just looks straight ahead. I've never even seen his eyebrows or mouth move. He never says anything.'

The inmates follow the case intently on the news and discuss it daily, finding it hard to believe they are locked up in the same jail as him. An inmate said he was only 30 feet away from Kohberger.

This is what Brian Entin reported on about Bryan's jail situation. I don't see other inmates having any contact with Bryan K.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1703956652163039529

https://twitter.com/x/status/1703956653245137127

 

[Boxer]

MOO, between this and the other info we are privy to at this point, I am almost convinced there was at least one other besides BK involved. How many others and the extent of involvement I’m not sure, but I just have a nagging suspicion that this was not a one man job.

Why?
It was quick. One man does that.

 

[Justice101]

Why?
It was quick. One man does that.

Easley one man could do that in 10 minutes.

Set your stop watch on your phone for 10 minutes and imagine this

 

[girlhasnoname]

If he's talking to family, I bet it's a polite exchange. Family news. Niceties. Probably have a long history of trying not to poke or provoke.

Granted a different kind but they are victims too.

Once he got into the real world, he didn't know how to pump his own brakes. Or he just didn't want to stop himself anymore.

He betrayed them too.

JMO

I think BK has put his entire family through the ringer from an early age. They are his victims also.

JMO

 

[MeadowMuffin]

MOO, between this and the other info we are privy to at this point, I am almost convinced there was at least one other besides BK involved. How many others and the extent of involvement I’m not sure, but I just have a nagging suspicion that this was not a one man job.

What is it that makes you think this? That 4 were killed by one person, or the timeline of the killings?

One instance of 4 people murdered by one attacker was Dennis Rader (BTK). He attacked the Joseph Otero family in broad daylight, subduing and murdering a man, his wife and 2 children, by himself. They were not killed quickly, but they were awake, not drunk, and yet he overpowered them.

And then there is Ted Bundy. He entered the Chi Omega sorority house at FSU, murdering 2 women and horribly beating 2 others with a piece of firewood before he was scared off by the headlights of an approaching car. These young women were asleep, not drunk AFAIK, but the murders were quick and vicious, and I believe in adjoining bedrooms.

Richard Speck murdered 8 student nurses, one at a time, in Chicago. It was 11:00 PM at night, and he stabbed and/or stranged them.

The element of surprise, being asleep and a degree of inebriation, and the use of a killing knife makes these murders quick and absolutely possible by one person who is intent on destruction. Also, BK is the type of person who believes he is the "smartest person in the room". We've heard him described this way countless times. Why would he agree to do this with someone else who couldn't possibly be as smart as him?

 

[girlhasnoname]

MOO, between this and the other info we are privy to at this point, I am almost convinced there was at least one other besides BK involved. How many others and the extent of involvement I’m not sure, but I just have a nagging suspicion that this was not a one man job.

If nothing else, BK is autonomous. He would never share the thrill and glory with another.

JMO

 

[CKS]

Why?
It was quick. One man does that.

All my opinion and I'm not saying BK is innocent I just have had a hard time putting this puzzle together.



They have said it was quick which means he had no time to clean himself and if so, the one huge factor I haven’t been able to move past is the lack of evidence in his car. Absolutely impossible to execute a grizzly murder of that magnitude, and drive away without even a trace of blood or DNA somewhere on the floor board, vent, seatbelt, etc. Or even a hair fiber from one of the victims. Or transfer DNA from the rugs/carpets in the house. For me, it's incomprehensible.

A couple more things I don't understand is the killer not checking any of the bedrooms were the survivors were. I could understand it if their rooms were on the top floor but they weren't. Also, I can't wrap my head around the 8 hour delay to call 911 or the fact that it appears that the for some reason BK picked the two rooms that each had two people in it but left the two rooms alone that had one person in them.

 

[Boxer]

All my opinion and I'm not saying BK is innocent I just have had a hard time putting this puzzle together.



They have said it was quick which means he had no time to clean himself and if so, the one huge factor I haven’t been able to move past is the lack of evidence in his car. Absolutely impossible to execute a grizzly murder of that magnitude, and drive away without even a trace of blood or DNA somewhere on the floor board, vent, seatbelt, etc. Or even a hair fiber from one of the victims. Or transfer DNA from the rugs/carpets in the house. For me, it's incomprehensible.

A couple more things I don't understand is the killer not checking any of the bedrooms were the survivors were. I could understand it if their rooms were on the top floor but they weren't. Also, I can't wrap my head around the 8 hour delay to call 911 or the fact that it appears that the for some reason BK picked the two rooms that each had two people in it but left the two rooms alone that had one person in them.

The car evidence:
Criminals who prepare now strip after a crime by standing on a large plastic bag stepping off naked onto new shoes and clothes.

I soeculate the killing blows were the ranger assasination type snd that did not cause him to be excessively bloody.
He may he had months to clean.

Not checking rooms:

He had a target - it went sideways when he found two women, then Xana got targeted by accidentally getting his attention and the Ethan walked into this killing field.

I dont believe BK saw DM at all, as she peered out of a crack in her door because there was a large "Good Times" neon sign hanging by the door exiting the livingroom to the hall, and MOO it would temporarily diminish his night vision.