4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #95

[Nila Aella]

My interpretation differs. MOO. I thought Sy Ray was only trying to get the prosecution to turn over more data. 1) Seems if you want something, you better tell them they benefit by turning it over. 2) Sy is running a business. He has a financial interest to get more data for analysis. No more data, limits what he can do/say. 3) Also, one of the keys for me was how he claims the data is piecemeal, missing data; yet, he has enough to know it is "incredibly inaccurate." What? Is that because the data is not showing him at the park watching the moon and stars? He made these statements because he wanted the data during the crime (when his phone was presumably turned off or something) and didn't get it. Again MOO. I look forward to seeing how this plays out in the trial.

From article: Cellphone expert testifies missing data benefits University of Idaho murder suspect "Because of the piecemealing of the data, because of the missing data, because of the data I'm reviewing that is incredibly inaccurate, everything that is missing is absolutely in benefit of the defense right now," Ray testified, adding, "There are other reports that are missing that I can't tell you are benefiting of Mr. Kohberger or the state."

Sy Rays Testimony:

The 2-3% missing is Field Testing data along 270 and the Crime Scene.
LE did five days of drive testing (151:38)

82 percent of the points LE did obtain were not plotted.

Why it is important according to SR

159:40
He is talking about 2-6AM the morning of the 13th
Adding the 82 % will tell a much more detailed story
Adding the drive testing will refine it even more.

147:38 Drive test
The portions missing:
Unable to find any locations on 270 - missing the entire stretch
The crime scene

154:38
This data is from the drive testing
He could see significant errors, errors which would have a ripple effect.
Scenarios for why the data is missing: never captured, machine error on one portion of the drive test, data extracted.

In addition to the above missing data: More than 80% of the CDR was not plotted. The FBI only mapped 6%. Det M only 18%.

156:14
I have had concern since the very first day I saw the Cast Draft report that there are significant errors. I can look at the coverage areas and I can tell you they are wrong.

201:15
There are statements and assumptions made in the records that will never be supported by the data.
There are a lot of claims made in these emails and even in the name files. It does not represent what is claimed to represent.

204:15
As I have gotten more documents, I am finding a lot of misstatements that have been made.

JMO

 

[PinkParis2052]

Bryan Kohberger follows his own case in the news from jail

DailyMail.com spoke with current and former inmates as well as jail sources who told of alleged quadruple murderer Bryan Kohberger's behavior behind bars

www.dailymail.co.uk

DailyMail.com spoke with current and former inmates, as well as jail sources. Among the revelations are that Kohberger gets daytime access to a television in his cell and likes to flip on the news to follow coverage of his own case. 'It's really kind of bizarre.'

Separated from other inmates Kohberger meets privately with a local pastor on Sunday. When he is escorted by 2 guards out of his cell and shuffles past other inmates he sometimes faces taunts and shouting.

When one inmate named Tyson hollered 'bit**!' at Kohberger he barely flinched, turning toward him with a menacing stare without breaking stride as he proceeded down the hall, according to one inmate who watched it happen.

'He always has the same expression, or non-expression,' said one inmate, who met with a DailyMail.com reporter in the jail. 'He just looks straight ahead. I've never even seen his eyebrows or mouth move. He never says anything.'

The inmates follow the case intently on the news and discuss it daily, finding it hard to believe they are locked up in the same jail as him. An inmate said he was only 30 feet away from Kohberger.

This is the same website that reported this

'I cut them, I'll cut you': Idaho 'killer' shows genitals in jail rant

Inmate Valerie Cipollina, 50, tells DailyMail.com that Kohberger tried to expose himself to her while she was in a cell close to him at the Monroe County Jail.

www.dailymail.co.uk

and Brian Entin found out that it wasn't Kohberger.

 

[schooling]

This is the same website that reported this

'I cut them, I'll cut you': Idaho 'killer' shows genitals in jail rant

Inmate Valerie Cipollina, 50, tells DailyMail.com that Kohberger tried to expose himself to her while she was in a cell close to him at the Monroe County Jail.

www.dailymail.co.uk

and Brian Entin found out that it wasn't Kohberger.

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So what I infer from the article is that…
- inmates don’t like people who are accused of killing innocent people (in particular defenseless women)
- BK worships a god
- BK watches coverage of his case

None of those things sound like a stretch.

Oh and DailyMail is an approved source.

 

[schooling]

Sy Rays Testimony:

The 2-3% missing is Field Testing data along 270 and the Crime Scene.
LE did five days of drive testing (151:38)

82 percent of the points LE did obtain were not plotted.

Why it is important according to SR

159:40
He is talking about 2-6AM the morning of the 13th
Adding the 82 % will tell a much more detailed story
Adding the drive testing will refine it even more.

147:38 Drive test
The portions missing:
Unable to find any locations on 270 - missing the entire stretch
The crime scene

154:38
This data is from the drive testing
He could see significant errors, errors which would have a ripple effect.
Scenarios for why the data is missing: never captured, machine error on one portion of the drive test, data extracted.

In addition to the above missing data: More than 80% of the CDR was not plotted. The FBI only mapped 6%. Det M only 18%.

156:14
I have had concern since the very first day I saw the Cast Draft report that there are significant errors. I can look at the coverage areas and I can tell you they are wrong.

201:15
There are statements and assumptions made in the records that will never be supported by the data.
There are a lot of claims made in these emails and even in the name files. It does not represent what is claimed to represent.

204:15
As I have gotten more documents, I am finding a lot of misstatements that have been made.

JMO

All MOO below…

I’m calling this the ‘Wild Goose Chase Defense’ and I think maybe I’m coining it at this moment? The defense is upset that LE didn’t go on one after they found their prime suspect and couldn’t clear him.

It’s the same tactic with the videos. There’s video missing so that’s evidence that LE rushed to judgement. Since LE can’t account for the billions (IMO) of possibilities and variabilities there must be something nefarious going on.

IMO if an argument like this was to ever hold up in court then every single person convicteed of a crime without video of them doing it…has a case. The guy whose DNA was at the crime scene and he can’t account for his whereabouts? He must be innocent because LE didn’t canvas the entire state, or maybe world?

When is it OK for LE to focus resources on a suspect?

Also, I think BK’s car appearing near his apartment on video and via cellular before and after the crimes is all prosecutors need. The DNA puts him at the scene. We see him leave at an ungodly hour and come back at an ungodly hour.

I can’t think of a single case that ever hinged on transportation to the murder scene. All you need is opportunity.

JMO, all of the above.

 

[Chloegirl]

All MOO below…

I’m calling this the ‘Wild Goose Chase Defense’ and I think maybe I’m coining it at this moment? The defense is upset that LE didn’t go on one after they found their prime suspect and couldn’t clear him.

It’s the same tactic with the videos. There’s video missing so that’s evidence that LE rushed to judgement. Since LE can’t account for the billions (IMO) of possibilities and variabilities there must be something nefarious going on.

IMO if an argument like this was to ever hold up in court then every single person convicteed of a crime without video of them doing it…has a case. The guy whose DNA was at the crime scene and he can’t account for his whereabouts? He must be innocent because LE didn’t canvas the entire state, or maybe world?

When is it OK for LE to focus resources on a suspect?

Also, I think BK’s car appearing near his apartment on video and via cellular before and after the crimes is all prosecutors need. The DNA puts him at the scene. We see him leave at an ungodly hour and come back at an ungodly hour.

I can’t think of a single case that ever hinged on transportation to the murder scene. All you need is opportunity.

JMO, all of the above.

Thank you for saying this. Too many people are suggesting, even backhandedly that he is innocent. We do not have all the evidence. Secretly (not really), I want it to be him because that means that all the hole punching in this case is irrelevant. I think we all want the killer caught. So, if he is in custody being prosecuted that would be a good thing.

I see a lot of exercises to prove it doesn't fit what we know. There are a ton of things we do not know, far too much speculation, and then there is the media coverage. Combine that with the gag order and I'm going to guess we know about 20% of the information factually. JMOO

 

[PinkParis2052]

So what I infer from the article is that…
- inmates don’t like people who are accused of killing innocent people (in particular defenseless women)
- BK worships a god
- BK watches coverage of his case

None of those things sound like a stretch.

Oh and DailyMail is an approved source.

Valid point, a broken clock can be right twice a day. But in this situation imo, I think that Brian Entin is correct that it was a different inmate that lady was speaking about. Also Brian Entin gets some things right in reporting and he gets some things wrong too.

It's true that BK workshops God. He's Catholic.

I don't know if BK can watch tv or not. I'm not too sure about that. I'm going to have to look more into that when I got a chance. I heard that he was in solidarity confinement for 23 hrs a day and he gets one hour outside his jail cell. I don't know when he would get time to watch tv.

In all fairness to DailyMail, they do get some of their reporting correct.

 

[Cool Cats]

This is the same website that reported this

'I cut them, I'll cut you': Idaho 'killer' shows genitals in jail rant

Inmate Valerie Cipollina, 50, tells DailyMail.com that Kohberger tried to expose himself to her while she was in a cell close to him at the Monroe County Jail.

www.dailymail.co.uk

and Brian Entin found out that it wasn't Kohberger.

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Not the same jails. Not the same states. And Banfield and Latham sheriff also reported on the Latham jail with photo of layout and report about BK's behavior and vegan food. The Pennsylvania jail inmates were found to be lying not the Latham jail inmates...2 Cents

Details of Bryan Kohberger's jail life emerge

The man accused of murdering four University of Idaho students has been attending Mass on Sundays and has the option of attending Bible study on Wednesdays.

www.newsweek.com

Detention

Latah County is located in the northern Idaho panhandle; to the immediate west lies Whitman County, Washington. These counties are referred to as The Palouse, which produces a large share of the wheat, lentils, peas, oats and barley in the United States. The Palouse is home to two major...

latahcountyid.gov

 

[Cool Cats]

What we feel isn’t relevant, what we know is how the inmates feel about BK watching himself. Is that not the same. What I feel isn’t relevant but jail house inmates feelings are? Has the P offered a plea deal. I haven’t heard of one MFO/my feelings only

Can't do a plea deal if BK will not admit guilt. The defense and prosecution could sit down and hammer one out but only if BK signs it and pleads guilty in open court to 5 felonies and then goes to his sentencing and listens to victim impact statements.

He shows zero signs of doing this. His defense has been doubling down on his innocence and getting him exhonerated. I believe this is because their client BK keeps telling them a list of reasons why it wasn't him on King Rd that night, so his defense parrots what he tells them.

When your client tells you he is innocent you cannot go to the media and proclaim otherwise.

2 Cents

 

[Megnut]

Can't do a plea deal if BK will not admit guilt. The defense and prosecution could sit down and hammer one out but only if BK signs it and pleads guilty in open court to 5 felonies and then goes to his sentencing and listens to victim impact statements.

He shows zero signs of doing this. His defense has been doubling down on his innocence and getting him exhonerated. I believe this is because their client BK keeps telling them a list of reasons why it wasn't him on King Rd that night, so his defense parrots what he tells them.

When your client tells you he is innocent you cannot go to the media and proclaim otherwise.

2 Cents

Totally agree, he's not pleaing.

But I'm guessing that AT came in strong and set the tone.

Something like this: in this moment, I don't know if you're guilty or innocent and it's not my job to determine that. I don't have to like you. You don't have to like me. But I am your best chance for a not guilty verdict. The less you say (to me), the better this will go (for you). Understood? I'm not here to hold your hand, listen to your narrative, collaborate over tea. You are entitled to a vigorous defense and I can provide you that. Buckle up.

JMO

 

[texaslb218]

Totally agree, he's not pleaing.

But I'm guessing that AT came in strong and set the tone.

Something like this: in this moment, I don't know if you're guilty or innocent and it's not my job to determine that. I don't have to like you. You don't have to like me. But I am your best chance for a not guilty verdict. The less you say (to me), the better this will go (for you). Understood? I'm not here to hold your hand, listen to your narrative, collaborate over tea. You are entitled to a vigorous defense and I can provide you that. Buckle up.

JMO

This message needs to be played 24 hours a day to that Sarah Boone, the suitcase killer.