Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #177

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They are all so proud of themselves. On alert like attack dogs, what an exciting and fun day for them.
Working hard to circumvent justice and keep this case from going to trial. We wouldn’t want people actually hearing all the evidence.
It’s just a game to them.
And Libby and Abby are still dead.










Luke Nicholas

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Mar 17, 2024
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@Wienekelo I hope you and Hennessy have looked into Habeas Corpus procedures at the SCOIN ;)Best wishes for the team tomorrow.








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Michael Ausbrook, also on the case, is not attending the hearing tomorrow in order to file something if needed. He and I have a game plan in place, depending on what happens.
6:28 PM · Mar 17, 2024
 
StarryStarryNight said:
They are all so proud of themselves. On alert like attack dogs, what an exciting and fun day for them.
Working hard to circumvent justice and keep this case from going to trial. We wouldn’t want people actually hearing all the evidence.
It’s just a game to them.
And Libby and Abby are still dead.





Luke Nicholas
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Mar 17, 2024
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@Wienekelo I hope you and Hennessy have looked into Habeas Corpus procedures at the SCOIN ;)Best wishes for the team tomorrow.



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Michael Ausbrook, also on the case, is not attending the hearing tomorrow in order to file something if needed. He and I have a game plan in place, depending on what happens.
6:28 PM · Mar 17, 2024
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It's their job.
 
sunshineray said:
Is it?
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yes. Wieneke/Ausbrook = RA's appellate team.

If RA's counsel are removed today, Cara/Ausbrook here indicate they will immediately plead to the SCOIN and/or bring an interlocutory appeal process (such as habeus corpus) at the higher court. Ausbrook wrote the memo to Judge Gull arguing that this Contempt hearing could NOT be held under RA's case in Judge Gull's court; special prosecutor must be used, wrong venue, wrong process etc.. Cara W filed/managed the 1st and 2nd Writs at the SCOIN in November, wrong process, etc.

However, it's hard to believe the resolution would be to remove the D given we're in speedy trial land now and that sort of decision would be a choice to harm RA and delay his trial ... when the Court has many other choices at her disposal should she find the D in contempt ... and the SCOIN has already pointed this out in their Decision.

JMHO
 
Emma Peel said:
yes. Wieneke/Ausbrook = RA's appellate team.

If RA's counsel are removed today, Cara/Ausbrook here indicate they will immediately plead to the SCOIN and/or bring an interlocutory appeal process (such as habeus corpus) at the higher court. Ausbrook wrote the memo to Judge Gull arguing that this Contempt hearing could NOT be held under RA's case in Judge Gull's court; special prosecutor must be used, wrong venue, wrong process etc.. Cara W filed/managed the 1st and 2nd Writs at the SCOIN in November, wrong process, etc.

However, it's hard to believe the resolution would be to remove the D given we're in speedy trial land now and that sort of decision would be a choice to harm RA and delay his trial ... when the Court has many other choices at her disposal should she find the D in contempt ... and the SCOIN has already pointed this out in their Decision.

JMHO
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Right but this business concerns contempt charges for RA's defense attorney's actions, not the deliverance of RA from his possible conviction appeal in the future. So why are they on the ready today?
 
Emma Peel said:
yes. Wieneke/Ausbrook = RA's appellate team.

If RA's counsel are removed today, Cara/Ausbrook here indicate they will immediately plead to the SCOIN and/or bring an interlocutory appeal process (such as habeus corpus) at the higher court. Ausbrook wrote the memo to Judge Gull arguing that this Contempt hearing could NOT be held under RA's case in Judge Gull's court; special prosecutor must be used, wrong venue, wrong process etc.. Cara W filed/managed the 1st and 2nd Writs at the SCOIN in November, wrong process, etc.

However, it's hard to believe the resolution would be to remove the D given we're in speedy trial land now and that sort of decision would be a choice to harm RA and delay his trial ... when the Court has many other choices at her disposal should she find the D in contempt ... and the SCOIN has already pointed this out in their Decision.

JMHO
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Yes it's a three-ring circus and all the performers want in.
 
Emma Peel said:
Far too much critical early taped evidence has been lost by investigators in this investigation; puts McL/State in an unnecessarily vulnerable position here. Very serious; perilous stuff for the State. JMHO
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The first days of the investigation were under the Robert Ives watchful eyes and not NMc. I do not hold NMc responsible for the taped-over interviews since it falls within the purview of Ives.

NOV 11, 2017
Robert Ives' wife said he will step down at the end of the year for a variety of personal reasons.
Carroll Co. prosecutor to step down
 
sunshineray said:
They may have them and just not come across them yet? I just thought of another possible scenario. Maybe the replacements/old attorneys may have misplaced stuff...before returning it to AB&BR, after the SC ruled them back in the driver's seat? It's possible, JMO
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That's what I was thinking,--
That they have them, they just haven't "had time" to get to them yet what with all the hoopla trying to save their own as$e$.

OR

They were part of the documents that their client, RA, was eating after his attorneys gave them to him. :oops::rolleyes:

Too late now to retrieve them if he ate them.

"The records also allege that at one point, the warden of the facility told investigators that Allen had been “wetting down paperwork he had gotten from his attorneys and eating it.”

www.nbcchicago.com

Unsealed documents reveal new details in Delphi murders

Newly released court documents in the murder case of two Delphi, Ind. girls are providing new details, including what investigators discovered at the crime scene and a supposed confession from Richard M. Allen, the man who is charged with the girls’ murder.
www.nbcchicago.com www.nbcchicago.com
 
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