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Mine too.RSBM
You don’t need three guesses for that!I know who’d be on the top of my list! JMO
Mine too.RSBM
You don’t need three guesses for that!I know who’d be on the top of my list! JMO
I'm trying to limit myself to just one person but then I decided to make it plural.
The B-G violation thing needs a bit more definition before I fully decide how many names I'm interested in.
You lost me at Yugo. No one would rob a bank with this as transportation.To what end?
If the state has the goods the defense has the goods. Let's say John robs a bank. He's caught on video, there are eyewitnesses that identify him, he left his DNA on the counter, fingerprints on the robbery note, and the license plate of his Yugo was captured on exterior video as he made his escape.
Now his lawyers publicly say they believe John is innocent, seek no plea deal, plead not guilty, demand a speedy trial, and point out that one of the witnesses inaccurately thought John had hazel eyes.
I don't get it.
I only see three possibilities at this point.
1. They didn't care enough about the girls to give the attention to detail required to properly (or even adequately) carry out an investigation.
2. They cared a lot but the city, county and state authorities really were just this monumentally incompetent.
3. Something more sinister is going on.
I don't like any of those choices, I'm scrambling for one that's easier to swallow.
BBM:I’d scratch #1 as I don’t think they could be that callous not to care about those two innocent girls.
I guess I’d scratch #2 as well as I just cannot believe they could be that “monumentally incompetent. I just can’t.
So, I’m left with #3. Try as I might, I can’t shake that one. Someone’s covering for someone. There’s something deep and dark in Delphi.
JMHO
Absolutely! More than one. MOOBBM:
An oath perhaps?? MOO
yes the 3rd franks was blatantly an effort to promote conspiraciesState’s Response to 3rd Franks Motion
The defense was made aware of the geofence experts and looks like they chose to write a Franks instead. The State calls out they have had this evidence from 1st discovery disclosure & once they were reinstated.
Pg 3:
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Provided in spreadsheet form pg 4:
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Going back to the State's Response on 3/17. They addressed the late discovery.
Adobe Acrobat
MOO 3. - but I can't imagine at all, that city/county/state would sacrifice some little Delphi CVS employee for a well-kept secret, if he is innocent. Is the magic trick, not even remotely to provide the death penalty and to get him free at all costs, IF he is the current scapegoat?I only see three possibilities at this point.
1. They didn't care enough about the girls to give the attention to detail required to properly (or even adequately) carry out an investigation.
2. They cared a lot but the city, county and state authorities really were just this monumentally incompetent.
3. Something more sinister is going on.
I don't like any of those choices, I'm scrambling for one that's easier to swallow.
Do people steal from each other in the headquarters?In Dulin’s report as stated in the FM, he looked for the audio recording of his interview with RA and could not find it. Are we surprised? Evidence just goes “poof” in CC! What then? Do they just make it up on the fly!? I’m sorry, but Keystone Cops comes to mind except none of this is a laughing matter.
“I checked my audio recordings and cannot find one for him. I will keep looking because I am sure I recorded every interaction I had related to my assigned leads.”
FM pg 132
Right.![]()
I find it interesting that many seem to be convinced that conspiracies do not exist. Perhaps we should remove the word from our dictionaries?
Well, we just had a first degree murder case which resulted in a not guilty verdict were it is alleged and under special investigation that 3 officers colluded to falsify their statement to a jury to ensure a first degree murder conviction. Thankfully it was exposed and the jury came to the right verdict despite the officers’ conspiracy (collusion) to subvert justice. JMHO
In our case, the Defense is alleging that the crime was committed by several individuals
involved in Odinism. The Defense has filed several motions with his theory contained in the
motions. The Defense continues to promote this theory to the public with no evidence to support
the theory. The Defense have come to the point where they are making false statements in their
motions in a continued effort to support the theory. This is one of those occasions.
It is unclear as to the reason the Defense chose to have at least half of the content of this Frank’s Motion address events that occurred nearly a year after the submission of the search warrant and supporting probable cause affidavit. It obviously fails to meet the burden due to the fact that the Turco interview could have no bearing on what the probable cause affidavit
What would be your explanation for BH telling his ex AH that PW and his “people” did it? And if he truly believed this, did he tell LE during his “lost” interview? If not, why not? I asked this question earlier. PW did in fact give DNA in August 2023. I wonder if BH was ever asked to provide DNA in 2017? PW was not in 2017. Did BH provide DNA in 2023? Obviously, they collected DNA from the CS. AND, why would they bother collecting PW’s DNA AFTER they had RA arrested and in prison?Criminal conspiracies obviously exist but for me the dividing line between an actual criminal conspiracy and a conspiracy theory is evidence.
In Franks 3 the defence sought to promote a conspiracy theory to the galleries via the fact free allegation that Odinists were milling around the crime scene with their phones; yet
1. These people were are identified and are not odinists.
This ought to be obvious to anyone thinking about this for 2 minutes. Obviously the Odinist killers could not have been milling around the crime scene with their phones or they would have been caught back in '17. The defence obviously know this - the point was rather obviously to tap into an existing conspiracy theory.
2. Turco does not support the idea any kind of Odinist sacrifice took place
Again the point appears to have been a conspiracy that the prosecution are trying to cover for odinist killers by hushing up Turco - but even if true, that can logically have nothing to do with the search warrant.
State’s Response to 3rd Franks Motion
ETA: clean up and gardening
I don’t know but there sure is an inordinate amount of incompetence going around, so much it really is unbelievable.Do people steal from each other in the headquarters?![]()
What would be your explanation for BH telling his ex AH that PW and his “people” did it? And if he truly believed this, did he tell LE during his “lost” interview? If not, why not? I asked this question earlier. PW did in fact give DNA in August 2023. I wonder if BH was ever asked to provide DNA in 2017? PW was not in 2017. Did BH provide DNA in 2023? Obviously, they collected DNA from the CS. AND, why would they bother collecting PW’s DNA AFTER they had RA arrested and in prison?
Interesting, you say the people identified were not Odinists. According to RA, neither is he. Yet, we have a crime scene with at least three “signatures” according to RI. My issue isn’t necessarily with whether or not the girls were “sacrificed” or just murdered and it was made to look that way for whatever reason. I could speculate on motive for the killings and why BH would want to implicate PW, but I would like to retain my privileges here.
All JMO.
Do we know, how many tips the CS telephone hotline has lost, when data loss is so very common in the Delphi case? Approximately 50.000+ were left, afaik.