Abby & Libby - The Delphi Murders - Richard Allen Arrested - #189

[sunshineray]

Interesting, I wonder if we should expect to hear anything that happens at this?

They still have to hash out all the evidence that will be presented, what's admissible, what's not.

 

[FromGermany1]

Yes, extremely strange. I remember lots of talk about it at the time.

ETA: Maybe putting the pics of the girls out was considered to be the best way to get attention....if people recognized the girls, they'd maybe log on to where they saw photos of the girls and see what it was all about. (i.e. if KAK or anyone else was sharing photos of them.)

Just a theory.

IMO MOO

bbm
Exactly my guess today (not then).ETA: Although at that time one was already thinking of some Internet "things" going on.

 

[FromGermany1]

I recall one officer saying the he would never forget the look on one of the girl’s faces when she realized what was happening. He didn’t mention which girl, or what was happening. I’ll say MOO here because I don’T have the link handy, but it was discussed in many threads. This makes me think it is likely there is some significant video and audio that we haven’t heard. I wonder if they’ll be played for the jury? I can’t imagine being on a jury and having to be subjected to things like crime scene photos or videos, audio evidence of atrocious crimes being committed. I bet it could be traumatizing and I was wondering, if the jury in this (or any other) case ends up with some sort of trauma as a result of their participation on a jury panel, what, if any supports are available to them? What happens if something they see / hear at court has such a negative effect that it leads to severe anxiety, depression etc or makes them incapable of resuming their usual work duties?

The victim maybe was L, who filmed Abby at that moment (we don't know). In any case, the shocked victim wouldn't have filmed herself in these minutes, I think.

 

[Chimera]

I recall one officer saying the he would never forget the look on one of the girl’s faces when she realized what was happening. He didn’t mention which girl, or what was happening. I’ll say MOO here because I don’T have the link handy, but it was discussed in many threads. This makes me think it is likely there is some significant video and audio that we haven’t heard. I wonder if they’ll be played for the jury? I can’t imagine being on a jury and having to be subjected to things like crime scene photos or videos, audio evidence of atrocious crimes being committed. I bet it could be traumatizing and I was wondering, if the jury in this (or any other) case ends up with some sort of trauma as a result of their participation on a jury panel, what, if any supports are available to them? What happens if something they see / hear at court has such a negative effect that it leads to severe anxiety, depression etc or makes them incapable of resuming their usual work duties?

Bbm.

I think those are some very good questions !

 

[m00c0w]

In terms of the three girls who reported seeing BG on the bridge that day - given they were all out together that day, imo they were friends at that point. I was wondering, how long after the kids were found dead did they contact LE to report they’d seen a man there? I am also wondering, how much did the witnesses talk with one another about what they’d seen before talking with police about it?

In the time since having reported what they saw, have they continued to be friends? I’m asking because I am wondering what would stop them from further discussing what they witnessed amongst themselves or with other friends or family members? Have they continued to follow the case online as they wait to possibly testify?

In addition to these questions, I wonder, what questions did the police ask the kids when they interviewed them? Specifically I mean. Did they ask open ended questions such as “what can you tell me about the person you saw”? Or did they ask leading questions such as: “Witness A says she thinks the man had blue eyes, do you agree with that statement?”

These are some worrisome points given what researchers know about how these things can impact the reliability of a witness statement, and the impacts they could have during trial! Here is an interesting link about the issue of witness reliability and factors which influence it for those who have a moment to read it: Is Eyewitness Testimony Reliable?

This is exactly why testimony is memorialized early. The defense then has the ability to depose witnesses before the trial to see if the story stays the same. After that, at trial, they can either directly call or cross-examine witnesses to try to impeach their testimony if their version of events has changed over time or if there’s a possibility of them having rehearsed their testimonies together.

JMO

 

[TTF14]

This is exactly why testimony is memorialized early. The defense then has the ability to depose witnesses before the trial to see if the story stays the same. After that, at trial, they can either directly call or cross-examine witnesses to try to impeach their testimony if their version of events has changed over time or if there’s a possibility of them having rehearsed their testimonies together.

JMO

And what happens when all that initial testimony was "lost" or "recorded over?"

IMO

 

[m00c0w]

And what happens when all that initial testimony was "lost" or "recorded over?"

IMO

You go by the written reports, since not all interviews are even recorded in the first place?

 

[TTF14]

You go by the written reports, since not all interviews are even recorded in the first place?

I'm losing track of information.....do we know if written reports exist or if everything was wiped out?

IMO