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Can they not get a hung jury / mistrial?Keep in mind that it will take swaying an entire jury of 12 to reach either a conviction or an acquittal.
Can they not get a hung jury / mistrial?Keep in mind that it will take swaying an entire jury of 12 to reach either a conviction or an acquittal.
I wonder if we'll ever get to know this actually? Like when the trial is all over / appeals are done?I wonder what Scremin and Lebrato had in their Franks Memo that the judge was willing to set a hearing for them.
I may be misunderstanding what is being said in that doc as I thought he said he had some transportation things to watch and maybe some medical? Are you saying he thinks there may yet be more "confessions" in those?
Of course they can. If one juror holds out, despite 11 others feeling certain of their decision, an attempt will be made to have them reach a verdict. If not, hung jury / retrial.Can they not get a hung jury / mistrial?
I have read back through this thread and do not see anything about ‘transportation things’ or ‘maybe some medical’.I may be misunderstanding what is being said in that doc as I thought he said he had some transportation things to watch and maybe some medical? Are you saying he thinks there may yet be more "confessions" in those?
The videos spoken of, did they have audio?
They don't need it as that is customary with most surveillance. Some will have door sheets that line up with the conversations.The videos spoken of, did they have audio?
We were discussing the confessions and I referenced pg 9 of Harshman's testimony.I have read back through this thread and do not see anything about ‘transportation things’ or ‘maybe some medical’.
Can you please cite which transcript and page number you are referencing?
Exactly. So maybe that's why the D has seemed to drop their prior claims that Odinist guards were routinely terrorising him and threatening his family unless he confessed. That accusation has fallen to the wayside, I believe.I thought it was interesting to note that Harshman also noted that the officers are not stupid, they're aware of cameras in their faces etc....
Gotcha ok that was on page 8:Thanks.
Here is page 9. I can’t see anything about transportation or medical here, as questioned by the other poster?
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I thought it was interesting to note that Harshman also noted that the officers are not stupid, they're aware of cameras in their faces etc....
Thanks. Harshman says he observed RA in calls, videos, and movement within the jail, including to medical visits. He’s seen the suicide companion or officer notes.Gotcha ok that was on page 8:
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I assume they did, there is a known point of reference, the width of the bridge ties so his probable height was possibleI had a question since I have not looked closely at any of the wanted posters.
Did LE figure out his height correctly from the video and that is what is typed on the posters?
It's all here for us to finally read. The transcripts were asked for and they sound a lot like what was reported by MS and others.Thanks. Harshman says he observed RA in calls, videos, and movement within the jail, including to medical visits. He’s seen the suicide companion or officer notes.
Pretty clear and straightforward. Not sure what the other poster was questioning. Perhaps they will return and make it clear.
Sure, but that only postpones the verdict. It's not an acquittal.Can they not get a hung jury / mistrial?
And if there were a hung jury, RA would remain behind bars until retried. I have no doubt that the State would retry, if it came to that.Sure, but that only postpones the verdict. It's not an acquittal.
I could very easily see this happening just based on how many people I have seen online who do not believe RA is guilty at all, vs how many believe he is - based only on whatever has been made public to date (erroneously or otherwise) by either side! mooOf course they can. If one juror holds out, despite 11 others feeling certain of their decision, an attempt will be made to have them reach a verdict. If not, hung jury / retrial.
I have read back through this thread and do not see anything about ‘transportation things’ or ‘maybe some medical’.
Can you please cite which transcript and page number you are referencing?
Didn't it kind of have to go to the wayside when JG refused any frank's hearings and given her refusal to permit this SODDI angle into trial - I'm behind, have I misunderstood her rulings?Exactly. So maybe that's why the D has seemed to drop their prior claims that Odinist guards were routinely terrorising him and threatening his family unless he confessed. That accusation has fallen to the wayside, I believe.
I don't think they found any videos of said guards strong arming him like they described.